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Let's do some comparing of both. If you think of something else to add, be sure to mention it and I will add it to the OP unless it causes the OP to increase in size to the point it makes it too lengthy to add it to it. The OP is already somewhat lengthy to begin with. Or if you see something...

Isn't that what Matthew 25, for one, indicates? Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: Most of us, which may or may not include you, agree Matthew 25:31 hasn't been fulfilled yet. It then begs...

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the...

And guess which Greek word is used in that verse? Not eido but optanomai. But why? Maybe because it is meaning after Revelation 1:7 occurs, thus Him coming on the clouds, and He is then literally sitting in the throne of His glory upon the earth. Except who He was talking to at the time would...

IMO, a better passage that fit with what is going on per the tares being removed might be the following, which, BTW, sounds similar to the sheep and goats judgment, and may even be meaning it. Especially verse 38. Ezekiel 20:33 ¶As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and...

Until you submitted this I never even considered Ezekiel 9 before. But after reading Ezekiel 9 again I can for sure see some similarities with that of some passages in Revelation. I'm not sure what to think about at this point. It's interesting for sure.

Don't you mean a 3rd coming in your case? Does not Matthew 24:30 involve a coming? And do you not take it to be involving a coming in 70 AD while most of us take it to be involving the 2nd coming in the end of this age? Per my view it only adds up to 2 comings when taking the coming in Matthew...

I'm not convinced the tares are meant here. For one, I apparently don't take the tares to be meaning who you take them to be meaning. I believe NOSAS is Biblical and that the tares are simply those in the church that have fallen away. Everything else I quoted from your post above, I pretty much...

There is another way to look at some of this as well. It depends how far one is willing to think outside of the box, though. Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the...

Sounds like a valid argument to me. But even so, how do you explain the differences between that account and the following account? First, the account in Revelation 6. Revelation 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men...

This might not be the case every time, but generally when something is rendered 'see', if eido is used it typically means to perceive something. But when optanomai is used it typically involves literally seeing something with the naked eye. In Matthew 24:30 optanomai is used rather than eido...

When Christ bodily returns you don't think the kingdom will be physical, but will be spiritual forever? Which would mean saints experience the kingdom forever by faith rather than by sight. Which means saints still won't be able to see angels, for example, with the naked eye, because the kingdom...

I'm Premil too, yet you are not making much sense here, IMO. In Revelation 19 it involves the 2nd coming, then notice verse 21. Who do you take that to mean? Why wouldn't they be meaning the tares but would be meaning someone else? Surely, the tares would be part of the beast's armies. Or at...

I will try and take this on for now. Hmmm. Apparently, you don't agree that the moment Christ resurrected was when the OC age officially vanished and the NC officially age began. So what if there was still the 2nd temple and that they were still sacrificing animals for another 40 years. How...

Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit...

Just found the following article below. Thus far I have read some of it not all of it. What I have read I'm pretty much in agreement with for the most part. Worth reading if you have the time and are open about this subject rather than closed-minded. My view is and always has been that tares...

I'm not applying Genesis 3:15 to the time of the fall. That verse is prophetic and involves Christ, which means Christ has to be born first, which He was 2000 years ago.

What is it that you think is being sown in the world? Isn't it this? the children of the kingdom and the children of the wicked one. BTW, IMO, this also sheds some more light on the 2 seeds mentioned in Genesis 3. Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy...

IMO, NOSAS certainly doesn't contradict that. That has to be the solution then. Think of it like this. If the Bible is using real world imagery to make a point, shouldn't we first be considering what it means in a real world sense then applying it in that same manner per when it is used in the...

In my view the only way the tares could be involving the millennial reign is if Amil is the correct position. It is paralleling their proposed millennial reign, not Premils proposed millennial reign. The sowing only pertains to this age and not the next age as well. Matthew 13:39 The enemy...