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Except Amils need to be the ones answering questions not Premils. After all, the Premil position is not questionable, the Amil position is. It only stands to reason that if something is questionable a lot of questions are going to be asked. BTW, I answered his question. Maybe not the way you...

Here's a thought that comes to my mind. Can't speak for anyone else's mind, though. Matthew 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. I can't help but think of the following when I read...

Even if the mark is something spiritual rather than a literal mark, what does that have to with anything? Regardless what it looks like to do the following, until one beast rises out of the sea, another out of the earth, there is no mark to take or refuse to take in the meantime. No one could...

My point would be, none of that matters whether that person was correct or incorrect about the 12 disciples, since it doesn't change the fact that being beheaded can mean in the literal sense in some cases. Maybe not in all cases, though. Maybe in some cases being beheaded is simply another way...

You don't seem to be in good company per this thread then. Pretty much all these Amils posting in this thread are pro-preterists to some degree rather than anti like you.

Can't apply any of the following only to the first century, now can we? Yet you insist futurists have to change the goal post even though there are actually real cases where Christians are literally being beheaded in our day and time. ------------------------- The beheadings were described as...

Currently I don't believe in soul sleep. Therefore, your point is moot in my case. Obviously, when Samuel died he lived on in disembodied state somewhere But not in heaven since that wouldn't be possible until Christ died and rose first. Even so, Samuel still lived on in a disembodied state...

Can't say I have ever heard of that general rule of thumb. I don't even know what you meaning here by 'told' and 'showed'?

The way to maybe look at it might be like such. If one is literally beheaded what would that mean? It means their voice has been silenced. Therefore, in some cases it is meaning to literally be beheaded since some saints have been literally beheaded. In other cases it is meaning to be martyred...

My point was, regardless which manner Samuel came up, do you think he came up bodily or in some manner, since you apparently think some of the departed saints are already in physical bodies? Or at least that was the impression you were giving per the transfiguration example. Maybe I need to go...

And let's not forget what some Amils do with the following passage as well. Especially verse 44 and the way some of them apply that, thus disregarding that verses 51-57 follow verse 44, obviously further expanding on verse 44. 1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is...

With what you submitted in mind. Here is an interesting passage below everyone should also be familiar with. Do you then think Samuel came up bodily? 1 Samuel 28:11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel. 12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she...

Try reasoning it like this instead. How can God be the God of the living unless someone in a disembodied state can rise bodily and live forever? Can they live forever while in a disembodied state? Could Jesus live forever while He was in a disembodied state, meaning while He was physically...

Since Amils are applying a disembodied state rather than a bodily state to the saints in Revelation 20:4 after they are physically dead then seen living and reigning with Christ, this apparently means they place a disembodied state above that of a bodily state. They see the former being the...

Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. 26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham...

LOL. I didn't take his post in that manner. I didn't feel like he was being hostile per that post. I didn't see anything wrong with his post. But it did surprise me when I found out Amils don't even think anyone in verse 4 was martyred, though. Imagine that, being beheaded but it doesn't even...

I thought everyone agreed they were martyrs, even Amils? I thought, per your view they would be being martyred during the thousand years? Per my view they would be martyred before the thousand years. Per Amil how did they die to begin with if you don't agree they were martyred, for instance...

Though, I tend to think you are a bit more reasonable than some of these other Amils around here are, you are still not reasonable enough. Let's get on the same page here. I'm meaning saints that have been martyred. That's what verse 4 is pertaining to. Initially, John sees the souls of them...

For one thing, I don't take the sheep and goats judgment to be meaning the great white throne judgment to begin with. Anyone paying attention to the context leading up this judgment, and has even minimal discernment, should easily note that the context was involving profitable and unprofitable...

Wonder what Amils think is gained by first seeing the souls of them, where their souls are obviously already alive to begin with, then when they are living with Christ, thus the first resurrection, they are still in the same state after the resurrection they were in before the resurrection, a...