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Have you figured out why, if the Discourse is involving events beginning with His ascension through His return, and that 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and what all that involves have to undeniably be fulfilled before He can return, as to why Jesus excluded that from the Discourse entirely? It might be...

It doesn't matter if the trumpets are literal or not. The 2nd woe comes before the 3rd woe. The 2nd woe is not the last trump, the 3rd woe is. How then can they be rising during the 3rd woe during the 2nd woe? Where is the logic in that? How can the last trump be sounding during the 2nd woe if...

Except 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 involves the sounding of a trumpet. Where do you see the sounding of a trumpet taking place when the 2Ws rise and ascend into heaven? Don't they do that before the 7th trumpet sounds rather than when the 7th trumpet sounds? 1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not...

I have no dispute with that. But what about the false prophet then? Can you also argue he is no man? Nothing pertaining to the 42 month reign of the beast is involving an era of time where there is no false prophet also involved. Therefore, if the false prophet is human, no human can live for...

Beginning with verse 21 through verse 35 there are only 2 kings in view. The king of the north and the king of the south. And that the king meant in verse 36 has to be one of those two. The last king mentioned in the text prior to verse 36 is in verse 31 meaning here---And arms shall stand on...

If I'm understanding you somewhat correctly, I can see that being applicable to what Matthew 24:15 records, but not what Luke 21:20 records. IOW, Luke 21:20 is involving a literal temple, meaning the 2nd temple before it was destroyed. While Matthew 24:15 is involving the temple that 2...

For example. If Amils take this same approach pertaining to 42 months like you have, we then end up with the following, at least as far as I can tell. This 42 months and the thousand years are the same era of time, they are running in parallel. Except they have the beast in the pit the entire...

Douggg, the only way you might be correct is if there is something else recorded after verse 22 but prior to verse 29, that can explain the tribulation of days. Unless you can point out what that might be, we have to assume great tribulation pertaining to verse 21 is what is meant here. There...

Does this mean you take the vile person to be meaning the false prophet? Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation...

Luke 21 mentions zero about any AOD. You are adding to the text since some of that is meaning what happened during the events involving 70 AD, except none of those events involved an AOD. This couldn't possibly be correct since the 6th seal is the day of the Lord and involves the 7th trumpet...

Though, there are some things in the OP I might agree with, such as what I quoted above, since I too agree that Daniel 7:12 will be involving the millennium after the 2nd coming, I do not agree that the events pertaining to 70 AD involved great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning...

As of verse 21 in Daniel 11 this vile person is the main player, the main focus. If your interpretation is correct, submit the verse or verses that tell us what became of this vile person eventually. It makes no sense that one minute he is the main focus, the next minute he isn't, and that the...

This thread is disappointing thus far. The OP has challenged Post tribbers to undeniably prove Post trib. If I was still Pretrib and I was reading this thread, not one post made by any Post tribbber in here thus far would be enough to convince me Post trib is the correct view. I probably...

The text says He does it in the days of these kings. That sounds like that should mean all these kings have to be reigning at the same time. If we then compare to Revelation, there are kings all reigning at the same time, 10 of them, the exact same number as the toes. Revelation 17:12 And the...

It sounds like you and I might be on the same page in regards to Daniel 11, maybe? A4E is nowhere in that chapter. The one in verse 21 is the same one that fulfills verse 45 and is the same one that fulfills verse 31 and it isn't meaning A4E. Verses 21-45 involve the same era of time Daniel 12...

Maybe I'm the real prophet here? LOL Thus a perfect example of what I just said a few posts earlier. And the next thing you know, pretty much what I said was fulfilled a cpl of posts later. Meaning the post I'm addressing here.

I don't see the text agreeing with that. This 2000 year separation you mentioned would already be in verse 34. It would be between this---(A)Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands---and this---(B)which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to...

Does that Psalms also explain the ones meant in Daniel 12:2 that awake to shame and everlasting contempt? When are you going to produce the Scripture that proves that, that after Christ rose, many also rose from the dead unto shame and everlasting contempt? I won't hold my breath awaiting such...

To somewhat add to that. Why is it that some of us are able to be logical about these things,, but somehow we are the ones that are wrong, not the ones being illogical instead?

Even if that is true that still misses the point. It still cannot explain these--and some shall awake to shame and everlasting contempt. Is that portion missing from your translation? What part are you failing to grasp here? In order for Daniel 12:2 to be involving what Matthew 27 is involving...