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No one gets a fair trial then, right? Even in the real world most are given the opportunity for a fair trial and that it usually involves a period of time more than a mere 24 hour day. And that's just one person being tried. But you would have us believe that Christ judges and sentences every...

Can you explain how the following is making sense of the text? 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his...

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Assuming Amil is the correct position, the last day meant here would have to be the same day Christ returns. The logic would then be...

Then if we toss NOSAS into the mix, what then? One can be blessed and holy one minute, have part in the first resurrection one minute where death has no power over them, then the next minute they are no longer blessed and holy somehow, the next minute they no longer have part in the first...

Roger, IMO you are not dealing with the point I was raising. My point had to do with this---and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth--and how the past 2000 years are describing this. For example. In the NT, where execute and judgment are used in the same sentence, it is found in the...

Pretribbers for sure cant because what they argue contradicts numerous passages. Not to mention, since no one can put on bodily immortality until at the last trump, and that the rapture involves the snatching up of people still bodily alive, how then can Pretrib reasonably explain how someone...

Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. Explain how this part was fulfilled when Christ walked the earth 2000 years ago---a King shall reign...

I'm not entirely certain, but this indeed may be the case. We have to assume a lot of nonsense otherwise, and we have to speculate about some nonsense on top of that. For example. The account says, their bodies, not their spirits or souls, is what came out of the graves. What bodies? They...

------------------------------ 605 B.C.-171 B.C. 62 weeks or 434 years 587 B.C.-538 B.C. 7 weeks or 49 years 170/1 B.C.-164/3 B.C. 70th week or 7 years -------------------------------- Let's think about this for a minute. Starting from 605 BC you have it involving 434 years of the 490 years...

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I didn't say you weren't a Christian. I said anyone that claims that label should not be interpreting the 70 weeks in the same manner unbelieving Jews might. It doesn't look good. This is basically what we have here. Let's call one side A) the other side B). Side A) includes Marty, plus...

What I don't get is how you think you have figured out the millennium properly, and where all that is supposed to fit, when you can't even remotely figure out these 70 weeks properly and where all that is supposed to fit. And so what if there are other professed Christians that agree with your...

I don't know if you are being serious or not, but math was my favorite subject, though. I enjoyed the challenge. I don't recall getting A+s, more like A-s through B-s, somewhere in that range. As to the OP, the following is something I have noted but I have yet to make perfect sense of it all...

The consensus seems to be that Jerusalem and the first temple were destroyed in 587-586 BC. But even if that's not correct and it's 20 years earlier instead, even that doesn't help your interpretation one way or the other. Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth...

1 Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; Have you used this verse as an argument? The key phrase being 'your fathers'. In the OT and in the NT when that...

Wouldn't it be something if the events pertaining to the 7th trumpet involve far more than we realize? IOW, the final days of this age, followed by the millennium, followed by satan's little season, followed by the great white throne judgment, are all wrapped up in the days of the 7th trumpet...

There you go then. Since that obviously is not an example of good logic, how is it any different if one is insisting that the trumpets and vials parallel? Seal 6 is when God's wrath begins, is it not? And that a number of us, including you, agree the 6th seal involves the 7th trumpet, right...

It's sovereigngrace, or something along those lines in the event I did not get that entirely correct. I'm going by memory here.

Douggg, I have been knowing both of them since 2009 maybe even earlier. Both of them were posting on the same board I was at the time. I was also aware of some other boards at the time where both of them were posting at, except I was not posting at those boards. I was mainly reading what was...

Look what your argument implies. If the beginning of the 42 month reign of the beast doesn't even begin until trumpet 6, for example, this means they get a free pass on vial 1. IOW, vial 1 is never poured out on anyone worshiping the beast during it's 42 month reign because it has already been...