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Some people can have difficulty with the idea of God disciplining, especially if they have experienced harshness or abuse by authority figures growing up. Also if they were spoiled and don't know how to receive discipline as being an expression of love for their own good. But in either case...

Yes, but Paul wrote that he was filling up that which is behind of the sufferings of Christ....and that he was striving to apprehend that for which Christ had apprehended him. Jesus accomplished everything on our behalf but also He is our forerunner, which means we are to follow in His...

False dichotomy again. I just wonder why Yeshua is called the Word made flesh. Nobody is accusing or judging/condemning you my brother. We're just having a discussion.

So because someone has a healthy fear of the Lord and that they advocate reading and knowing the scriptures it somehow means they're looking for validation and not confident in their beliefs? And worse, it means they don't have a true relationship with God? And that it means they have a...

I wasn't aware there is any competition between God and the words He gives. If we love the Lord we will certainly love His words that were inspired by Him and faithfully written down by His servants. We are even to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ who is the word made...

I'm just in process of answering actually....and I made mention of His approachability as well.

Yes, in some respects and at some times. But at the same time He is approachable and I can come to Him with anything. It is not quite the same fear that we might have of say a bad guy pointing a gun at us, who we would try to hide from. Fear of the Lord is a kind of fear rooted in faith -...

Don't you know that Jesus said to fear Him who is able to destroy both body and soul in hades...? So while we may approach the Lord boldly, there is a place for fear. He is both approachable as well as not to be taken lightly at the same time but we should give Him the fear that is due Him...

That's scripture.... Phl 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 2Co 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all...

No working out our salvation with fear and trembling then...? We are seeing things differently. I agree a lot of the things prophesied were fulfilled in 70 AD, the end of that age...... but scripture indicates that this age is going to end as well does it not?.....the times of the Gentiles...

I often notice things in the bible that I had read before but somehow it hadn't registered before. It's always good to go back and be refreshed in the word. We grow in it. And it has a way of "washing" (sanctifying) us.....the washing of the water of the word. If the early church was...

Yes, tribulation and judgment happened to Israel already in the time around 70AD, but remember the bible says the things that happened unto Israel happened to them and were written down for OUR (church's) ensample and admonishment. Israel was like the church in a living allegory. The gospel is...

Just would like to add this if I may....just because something comes more "naturally" to one person doesn't mean we should assume it is like that for everyone everywhere in every circumstance and at every time. If everything comes to everyone "naturally" when we first come to faith we would all...

When I suggested that abiding under wrath is positional, I meant for this life, until/unless one come to Christ. After death comes the judgment. And what has been translated as "hell" in scripture can be either hades or gehenna. Hades seems to be where the dead go to await...

Perhaps where John wrote about the wrath of God abiding on them, is positional, rather than actual.....since it's evident that His wrath hasn't been poured out on them yet. "As it is appointed unto man but once to die, and THEN the judgment..." I believe people are sinners because they are...

2Co 5:18-20 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of...

I take it that a forum is a place where everyone already has permission to freely share their thoughts and perspectives, as well as where we may freely test and challenge what each other is saying. I pray God's will and blessing regarding your job interview brother.

Thanks......I think you did give me your perspective on another thread recently, or maybe part of it. It's getting harder for me to grapple with things as I get older, but I'm going to have to let it percolate and see whether it fits with scriptures in general, Lord willing.

I think those outside the heavenly city is where they are now, while faithful believers are inside it now, seated in heavenly places in Christ. One day those outside will be cast into the lake of fire (which I take to be gehenna), along with death and hades, and the old order of things will...

It's just a manner of speaking. We always need to "hear what the Spirit is saying". Scripture isn't confined to literal grammatical constructs...it is speaking in spirit and must be spiritually discerned. So nobody is going to "die in their sins" then....? Sins are only remitted through...