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Because you are creating a false doctrine. You come saying you believe in imputation, then distort and twist it so much that it isn't imputation. You turn that, which is necessary for God's salvation to be of grace, into law. You cannot hold to part of the doctrine of imputation and reject...

Think of what you said. You said, "we die because we sinned". You said, "we sin because another sinned". You want to admit the imputation of sin, but not the imputation of death. Both are imputed at the same time to the human race. (Rom. 5:12) Stranger

It would be wise to not try and say what another meant, when they are being evasive and in error about what they are saying. Imputation gave us Adam's sin. Imputation gave Christ Adams sin and ours as a result. Imputation gave us Christ's righteousness. Save your love for another. I...

Indeed I am the expert on what you believe. You keep proving it. Quit trying to change the subject. That is exactly what you said. And now you want to 'qualify' that because it is what you said. Worse, it is what you believe. You cannot deny the imputation of Adams sin and then somehow...

Well, if Noah was always obedient to God, he didn't need grace. He just needed to be rewarded for being such a fine believer as we all should be. And if Noah didn't need grace, and then always continued to obey, then all the more reason that he deserved, by his good deeds, to be saved...

As do I. Yes, I did say that. Salvation also includes sanctification and glorification. Well, one is not totally saved until after glorification. Yes, baptism is part of sanctification. Where did I say salvation is not complete until we are sanctified? I didn't. I said if one is...

You are both misrepresenting me and the quote. Give the whole quote and you will understand...maybe. Please try and keep up. You asked and I told you. A person can know they are declared righteous by God the moment they place faith in Christ, because they have beleived that which God says...

No, the list doesn't say that. You say that and hope to provide a list that supports you. When one believes, he is born-again. That is by faith. Yes, the only place salvation is found is Christ. When one believes, he is 'in Christ'. (Rom. 6:3-4) is not water baptism. It is the...

I never said Abraham was lacking in faith. A person who places faith in Jesus Christ has righteousness imputed to them at that moment. He can know it because he has believed that which God says he must believe. Like with Abraham, righteousness was not imputed until he could do nothing but...

Yes, I did say it. Water baptism is not necessary to be born-again. You fail to see that salvation is not just being born-again. It involves the whole aspect of your being brought from a lost state to being justified, to walking in that salvation (sanctification), to a future glorified state...

No, you don't believe the righteousness of Christ is imputed to the believer. You admit there is nothing to imputation. You die for your own sin. You don't believe (Rom. 5:13). You say imputation plays no role in getting you to Heaven. Thus you deny imputation altogether. You opt for...

You have answered nothing. You have admitted that you don't hold to the doctrine of imputation. You want you to be responsible for both your sin and your righteousness as though you will be seen righteous by God for your efforts. Stranger

Oh yeah. It was easier for you to respond to a post not addressed to you then to the one I addressed to you...wasn't it? #(289) Go back and respond to what I said there. All you are saying is you deny the imputation of God. And spare me your attempt to make yourself look holy. You do...

Just put that lolipop back in our mouth. Stranger

Because God did not impute their sin to them. Imputation makes it so that what God sees and says does happen. Their sin did happen. God's not imputing it overruled it. Spare me your remarks of 'much love'. I don't really believe it. Stranger

So, when God said Noah found grace in His eyes, He was only talking about Noah not drowning? Did Noah need grace to be saved just like you and I? And maybe that is the reason Noah was delivered from the flood? Stranger

Again, I didn't say Abraham was not a believer when he left for Ur. I said God did not impute righteousness to him until his faith was all there was. And his faith was directed toward the Seed to come. And to this Paul agrees. (Rom. 4:3). Today when one places faith in Christ, they are...

I have already told you. I don't reject baptism as part of salvation. Stranger

My intent is to not get you to agree. It is just to show you are wrong. Adams sin was the result of breaking a law of God. As a result, it was imputed to his race. (Rom. 5:12) As a result all men die. If Adams sin had not been imputed to his race, then none would have died from Adam to...

Righteousness was not imputed to Abraham until (Gen. 3:15). Abraham believed and was obedient to God prior to and after that. But God chose that time to impute righteousness to Abraham. Why? As I said, because there was nothing Abraham could do but believe. In (Gen.12) Abraham could do...