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  1. Butch5

    Did Paul Preach The Same Message As Jesus And Peter ??

    My friend, Peter and Paul were teaching different people therefore they would approach them differently. The Jews were well versed in the Sciptures the Gentiles were not, therefore they would require different approaches in teaching
  2. Butch5

    Did Paul Preach The Same Message As Jesus And Peter ??

    I believe we have discussed this before. Please show me where Jesus or the apostle taught Christians that it ws necessary to keep the Law.
  3. Butch5

    Did Paul Preach The Same Message As Jesus And Peter ??

    Paul preached the same message as Christ and the other apostles. Just because the Jews continued to follow the Law does not mean Paul preached another message. Look at the Great Commission isn Mathew 28, Jesus told the apostles to go to the "nations", the Greek word is also translated Gentiles...
  4. Butch5

    A Simple Question To The Forum About Getting Into The Kingdom Of God.

    If you are referring to Christ's law, it is absolutely necessary that we follow and obey. If you are talking about the Mosaic Law, it is not necessary that we follow it, however, I don't think there is any harm in keeping it as long as you are not depending on it for justification. After all...
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    Who Comes To The Cross? Only A Few.

    That's cool Textus, however, my statement about Ephesians 1 isn't an assumption. You are correct about the word "We", it can be either inclusive or exclusive, which must be determined by the context. It is the internal evidence that tells us that It is exclusive. As we see in verses 3-12 Paul...
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    Who Comes To The Cross? Only A Few.

    This is what it has to do with the issue. You quoted John 6 saying that no one can come to the Father unless they are drawn. My point in posting that passage is to show that in context Jesus was speaking to the Jews. He was not making a universal proclamation that no in all of history would be...
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    Who Comes To The Cross? Only A Few.

    I think you're missing the point and ignoring the Scripture. Jesus said that he had only come to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. No matter what He did it doesn't change the fact that He only came to Israel. Paul also confirms this fact. Galatians 4:4-5 ( KJV ) But when the fulness of...
  8. Butch5

    Who Comes To The Cross? Only A Few.

    Jesus said He had only come to the Jews .When he sent out the 70 He told them not to go to the Gentiles. You see many Christians miss the point of the Scriptures because they obsess over salvation, when Jesus said many times that He had come to bring the kingdom of God. There was a whole lot...
  9. Butch5

    Who Comes To The Cross? Only A Few.

    Why, this is called proof texting. It is simply taking passages of Scripture out of context to support a preconceived idea. Let's take a few of those passages and put them in context. What is actually happening here? For one thing Jesus said that He had only come to the lost sheep of the house...
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    Why Can't Everyone Come To Christ?

    What is there to refute, they are not in context? I could support just about any doctine by taking verse our of context. You say they mean this and at that, can you show that they mean what you say in the context of the passages?
  11. Butch5

    Why Can't Everyone Come To Christ?

    My friend, If you put those passages in context you will find that they don't actually support what you are saying.
  12. Butch5

    The Cross: Only For A Few

    My friend, an argument from silence is no argument at all.
  13. Butch5

    Predestination Vs. Free Will

    It is not either or, it is both. God has given man free will to choose to follow Him, and He has predestine that all who follow Him will be conformed to the image of His Son.
  14. Butch5

    Love Your Enemies

    Well, said friend. Going to the Greek clears up a lot of confusion.
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    Love Your Enemies

    well my friend, can you explain why all of those who were taught by Christ and the apostles "ALL" understood the teaching to be that Christians were not to use violence at all. For the first 300 years of Christianity Christians did not use violence. If you believe that this is wrong then please...
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    Love Your Enemies

    Sorry my friend, that was Augustine's argument after he changed his mind. There is no such thing as a just war. Christ said "love your enemies", what part of war is loving your enemies. Christians are not supposed to war, Paul said our weapons are not carnal but Spiritual. Jesus said my kingdom...
  17. Butch5

    Interpretation Is The Problem.

    I agree to an extent, however, I believe the bigger problem is that Christians just believe what they are taught. Most that I know rely on their "pastor" to teach them rather than searching the Scriptures for themselves. I am amazed when I see Christians arguing dogmatically for a doctrine when...
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    Love Your Enemies

    The battles in the OT were for the protection of a geographical nation, Israel. Under the new covenant there is no geographical nation, the members of Christ's kingdom are from all geographical regions of the world. Isaiah 2:1-5 ( KJV ) The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning...
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    Love Your Enemies

    If you were following Christ you would. But then again, if you were following Christ you would not be there to start with.
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    The Atonement

    Can you explain how 2 Cor 5:21 teaches that Christ paid the penalty for our sins? It says He became sin for us, it doesn't say He paid the penalty for sin.