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  1. Butch5

    Christianity and the Death Penalty in America

    No, the death penalty is not compatible with Christianity.
  2. Butch5

    What Eph 1:10 means ??

    How exactly have I misunderstood Ephesians 1:10 Dan?
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    Is it ok for a Christian to kill people?

    My friend, Law and Grace "do not" work together. Firstly, it was the Jews that were under the Law, not the Gentiles. The Law pertained to the Jews, it was given to the Jews. Jesus came and fulfilled the law, therefore Paul said to the Jewish believers at Rome that Christ was the end of the Law...
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    What Gal 1:6 and 7 mean?

    Hi Charles, It is Dan that believes the 12 didn't know the mystery. I hold that both Paul and the 12 preached the same thing. I agree with what you said, except for the part about he church being in heaven.
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    What Gal 1:6 and 7 mean?

    Dan, just read the letter. The letter to the Epheisians is to both Jew and Gentile. Also, notice Paul's wprds in chapter one. Ephesians 1:8-10 ( KJV ) Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good...
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    What Gal 1:6 and 7 mean?

    It's not Law and Grace that Dan is contrasting, it is two different gospels that he is proposing.
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    What Gal 1:6 and 7 mean?

    My friend, did you read the passage? Paul said the mystery was revealed to Christ's apostles, plural, not singular. That means the mystery was revealed to more than just Paul. Yes, the mystery was given to him by revelation, that is because he did not wlak with Jesus for three years as did the...
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    Is it ok for a Christian to kill people?

    First of all, what Japan, Germany, and America, did is irrelevant to the Christian, they were not following Christ. Concerning your use of the OT to support war, let me ask you if you also turn to the OT for salvation? Are you under grace or do you seek to be under the Jewish Law?
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    What Gal 1:6 and 7 mean?

    No Dan, it is not a "New" gospel, we've been over this. Ephesians 3:1-6 ( KJV ) For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: How that by revelation he made known unto me the...
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    Is it ok for a Christian to kill people?

    Can you provide Scripture where Jesus allowed it? Is fasting and praying doing nothing? Does God have the ability to protect Duckybill's family or does God require his help?
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    Predetermination or freewill?

    Man has the free will to choose God. This was the original faith. The idea of things being fated was a gnostic belief that the early church fought vehemently. Even when Augustine tried to bring it into the church hit was rejected. It wasn't until Luther that the doctrine finally made inroads...
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    Some questions

    How would God knowing all things thwart man's free will? Are you relying on the testimony of men for this science? How many times have they been wrong in the past? Perhaps there is other life, or maybe God put all those celestial bodies there because He intended to say to Abraham, Genesis...
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    Did Paul Preach The Same Message As Jesus And Peter ??

    Well, seee Dan, you said, You said Paul's message was mainly to the Gentiles. If there was a different gospel for the Gentiles why was Paul preaching it to the Jews??? I hate to have to say it Dan, but you don't get to define the terms. You can't just indiscriminately apply passages of...
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    Did Paul Preach The Same Message As Jesus And Peter ??

    The Jews kingdom is that same one that all believers will be in. You said What exactly would that be?
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    Did Paul Preach The Same Message As Jesus And Peter ??

    I'm sorry Dan, but you argument is flawed. As we have seen the Greek word can be translated Gentiles. Simply posting passages that use the word to speak of the Jews doesn't prove your point. I never said it could not, or did not also refer to Jews, It simple means a group of people, They could...
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    Two Wills?

    Can you provide a link to the text of the Isaiah Scroll so we can check for ourselves? As I have already shown, it is quite clear that Jesus and the apostles quoted from the Septuagint. If the Septuagint was inferior I hardly think inspired Scripture would be quoted from it. The Masoretic text...
  17. Butch5

    Two Wills?

    My friend, do the research, the text you are using is from approximately 900 to 1000 years "After" Christ. The Septuagint is approximately 200 years "Before" Christ. it was translated by the Jews and was the Jewish Scriptures. The reason the Jews rejected it was because the Christians were using...
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    Two Wills?

    HI TexUs, There's no tension here when one understands these passages under the Classic view of the atonement. It is whne one tries to reconcile these paassages under the Penal model that there is tentsion. Firstly, consider Isaiah 53 which you quoted. In the Masoretic text this passage seems...
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    Did Paul Preach The Same Message As Jesus And Peter ??

    Of course it is. What good would it do to say the the Gentiles, the Messiah has come? They would look at you and say, what messiah? The majority of the Gentiles had no knowledge of the Jewish Scriptures and would not be expecting a Messiah. If you were hiring someone to work on the engine of a...
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    How Will Life Be On Earth When Jesus Returns To Rule For 1000 Years?

    Are you referring only to the Mosaic Law?