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Actually, that's not true. You brought up the topic when you claimed...

Never intended to suggest that obedience was ever only an optional extra. Obedience is absolutely essential to entrance into glory, but our obedience is not the means by which we are justified.

That you are by your own confession not born again and hence do not have the Spirit of Christ abiding in you, means that all your teachings are from human reasoning and are limited only to understanding from a human intellect, and bereft of spiritual truth.

I think it very naive to believe that of all the kingdoms in the universe and throughout history, the kingdom of God is the only one without law.

The apostle Paul did not say the law was transitory. That's you, not Paul. What Paul said was transitory, or as the KJV says, was done away with, was the glory. Not the law itself. “But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel...

Surely you aren't suggesting that all of those laws applied only to one nation for a limited time? None of them were designed to govern humanity in general? Either kingdoms of men or the kingdom of God?

Or someone familiar with history. And again, you are twisting what I was actually saying. I know you are against OSAS for Christians, including Catholics. But you change your opinion when the discussion turns to the church in general. All of a sudden, your church is OSAS, while every other...

Compared to what? What I was or what Christ is? To the former yes, decidedly, to the latter, marginally. What's important is not the accomplishment, but the trend. I'm heading in the right direction. If I'm not, God has ceased His work in me, because I've walked away.

What law?

That's an interesting question. In other words who would you seek out first in the kingdom to chat with? I'm torn between two. Hezekiah always impressed me. As a12yo king he went against status quo, Swam against the current of popular thinking and he restored temple worship in the midst of...

Maybe the analogy has it's flaws. Not what analogy doesn't? I think the analogy sufficiently explains or exemplifies the truth that there are two stages in our growth toward holiness, as the original poster was querying. Justification, and sanctification. There is of course glorification, which...

And I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise. Yet your very statement here is the epitome of what the Vatican dislikes about the American Constitution, and would repeal had she the power. As I've pointed out previously, you rail against OSAS, and disagree with the principle of such a claim...

In one sense, yes. Spiritually, God looks upon us as if we had never sinned. Through the death of Christ and the shedding of blood, the just requirements of the law is satisfied. Thus we have our legal license or immigration papers to enter the kingdom of God signed and sealed. That is what we...

Do you realize what you are doing? Do you understand what the law is? Imagine for a moment that you are the leader of a political party. You are campaigning against the incumbent party. To attract votes, you need to present yourself as having the ability to do governing different. In order to do...

You asked some good questions, and made some excellent points, but your conclusions leave questions unanswered, and your assumption is that there aren't answers. You said, quote: There you have it.....the qualification needed to enter the Kingdom of God and the “right to eat of the tree of...

It makes perfect sense when you consider how Jesus revealed the truth that the death of the body is sleep, and the soul (remember first mention) is not a part of the human being, but the totality of life. Body soul, Spirit. “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed...

Except you don't really mean that do you. You didn't think death is really death, but another lesser version of living. And you also, intentionally or not, accept Greek pagan philosophy by separating body soul, spirit, and giving them independent life forces. Do you understand the teaching of...

The proper interpretation is that the Lord did indeed preach to those sinners who are now dead, but He did so when they were alive and had the ability to hear with their ears and repent. And the Lord accomplished that through His prophet, Noah, a "preacher of righteousness" , but we all know how...

You've touched on the very concept that gave birth to the present controversy over eternal torment. A lie from Satan himself that declared to Eve, that her sin would not result in her death. That was the genesis for the entire pagan religion that has endured to this day. It's principle doctrine...

Aaaaaaahhhhh, thank you. Now I understand the difference.