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It's a good argument. But it's only valid if we say that God's foreknowledge is ALWAYS a function of his agency. The Bible certainly indicates that God foretells us, at least SOMETIMES, in terms of THIS-IS-WHAT-I'M-GOING-TO-DO.

I think you are confusing me with someone else here. I am firmly on the side of free will. Our debate was over the idea of God being "outside of time" and how He interacts with the future. It seems to me that, in your desire to refute the idea that God forces EVERYTHING to happen, you have...

You're evading because you can't do it. You can't show where anyone in Biblical times articulated any idea similar to "God is outside of time," as you claimed. Yes it does. Do you only read the bits of the verses that you like? The same verses that say God foreknew also say that God purposed...

4. Other. The way the question is phrased makes me think that the person asking doesn't quite understand what all the words mean. Salvation is not a gold ticket that admits one person entrance through the pearly gates. Salvation is a state of being - a state of safety that has resulted from a...

Why would someone try to refute an idea that nobody had ever written about before? My claim was that there is nothing in this period of history written that contains that idea at all.

Within my beliefs, that's a past event rather than a future one. But the question still has validity - DID God force the tribulation on His people? No. God warned His people to flee the country in advance of the tribulation and gave them specific signs to look for - which they did, and found...

You have interjected yourself here, which is great. But I think perhaps you're missing part of the discussion that's already happened because it was in a different post? Everyone agrees that God foretells the future from time to time. What is under debate is whether this is because He...

Why is that a problem? That conception just doesn't exist during the time period the Bible was written. Seems like a modern attempt to science the Bible to me.

The Bible tells us God is All-Seeing. Many believe Him to be Omniscient, but the Bible doesn't explicitly say that's the case. Being All-Seeing, He has seen all the PAST, and sees all the PRESENT. Where God interacts with the FUTURE, it's a bit more complicated. He certainly tells the...

I wasn't giving an opinion here, such that one would say, "I disagree." I was simply reciting facts. You don't need to take my word for it... https://billygraham.org/video/why-christians-should-participate-in-politics/...

Graham was a frequent visitor to the White House, personal friends with Richard Nixon, an official counselor and advisor to a few Presidents, and unofficially to a few more. He was more circumspect about it in his later years, but early on he was very much a political figure.

The problem with transitioning is that the person DOESN'T accept themselves "as they are." Maybe that's your point and I'm just missing it. My generation grew up being told to "be yourself" but the younger generations were told "you can be anything you want to be." The parents were talking...

Seems apropos to me. He made a point of being involved in politics throughout his life.

Okay, but none of those are paid labor (I think). I assume that you take a day off from working a job, since most governments have laws establishing worker's rights, and they mostly don't allow 7-day work-weeks.

Yes. God uses evil men and nations to accomplish His purposes. This is explicitly stated in Isaiah Chapter 10: O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation. I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give...

Bringing it down to the level of individual tasks misses the point of the commandment, which is a day off of work. This is basically the problem the Pharisees and Essenes had - they wanted to judge every individual task as to whether it counted as labor or not, and then prohibit it for Sabbath...

Context please. Christ coming to the physical temple TO DESTROY IT is NOT the same thing as Him entering "holy places made with hands" for the purpose of ministering as a priest.

Not what I was suggesting. I'm just saying - if what you're using that day for is a weight for you to shoulder, then you're doing it wrong.

I account the abomination-that-causes-desolation to be the zealot leader encamping IN the temple - "shewing himself to be God." Anyhow, I respect your view and the study behind it. We don't quite agree on everything, but there is significant overlap.

I didn't make that claim. More stock answers from the copy/paste king.