Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Oh, we will... Each will be judged according to his/her works; Paul is very clear about that in Romans 2:6-8... "He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life; but for those who are...
  2. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Sure I do. LOL! I don't need you to teach me anything, Davy. If you want to have a conversation, then... I'm here. :) I deny your... "understanding" of that Scripture, yes, but certainly not the Scripture itself. I know it well, Davy. Yes, Christ is reigning from heaven now, and on the...
  3. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    LOL! Yes, I agree, actually. Those would be the self-deceived, or liars, or both. So, while I agree with what you say, here, it's really non sequitur. To that, though, I would humbly submit that neither is any kind of conversation worth having with anyone who falsely puts words in others'...
  4. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    It is, I agree. Sure. Absolutely. Here's where we disagree. Except for the "unsaved" part... Taking this whole passage into account, you seem to be of the understanding that there are individuals (a whole lot of them) standing on Jesus's right, but "nations" standing on His left. Am I...
  5. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Absolutely not. Ha! No, I'm sure Jesus was not lying, nor was He mistaken. :) ...was a misperception on your part. Well, it would have been, if what you thought I was saying was actually what I was saying... Grace and peace to you, Davy.
  6. PinSeeker

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    The "taking away" ~ sending away, of the ones on Jesus's left, the wicked ~ will occur at the final Judgment, as portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46, specifically verses 41-46. Too much is apparently being read into Matthew 24 by some posters here, or so it seems. In that specific passage, all we...
  7. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    All I was saying, Spiritual Israelite, was that you explicitly attributed bodily immortality to Jesus after His resurrection, which of course I agree with, but then you seemed to be attributing the exact same thing to Lazarus when Jesus called him out of the tomb. I understand now that you were...
  8. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    That's easy to say now, but you were not clear in not attributing that "bodily immortality" to Lazarus. Thus, the reasonable misunderstanding on my part. Okay, we disagree on that, too, and yes, obviously you will not be convinced otherwise. I can't really be concerned about either, and am...
  9. PinSeeker

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Absolutely. The land promised to Abraham was but a foreshadowing of the true, greater Promised Land. Ah, the symbolism in John's Revelation goes far. I would disagree with this, and submit that the "sea" was where John "saw the beast rising up out of" (Revelation 13:1), so, symbolically, it...
  10. PinSeeker

    Removed Thread.

    AlwaysOnAJourney, I would submit to you that the fact that you are down and obviously very worried about whether you are a Christian or not should actually be very encouraging to you. You are struggling with assurance of your faith, and because you are worried about it, that should actually be...
  11. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    Yes. Because that's what you seemed to be saying. I asked that in response to this statement of yours: "The first to rise physically/bodily from the dead unto bodily immortality, to be more exact. Obviously, there were others, like Lazarus, who had been physically/bodily resurrected from the...
  12. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    LOL! Well, yes, but as such, it is one general resurrection inclusive of the two groups ~ thus my earlier analogy of the first half and the second half making up one college basketball game... :) ~ "seen" by John in Revelation 20:11-13. So, in a way (I guess), you could say there are three...
  13. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    Not the case. To your point ~ or at least one of them; yes, I have read everything you have written to me, even carefully... :) ~ my point is that the exact same word does not have to be used for it to be the same thing. There is, for sure, a difference between the spiritual and the physical...
  14. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    Our justification by God, our being declared righteous in Christ, happened for each of us Christians when we were brought from death in sin to life in Christ ~ resurrected spiritually ~ and ensures that we will stand in the final judgment (as opposed to the unrighteous; "the wicked will not...
  15. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    Right, this is the problem. It is a spiritual resurrection ~ anastasis ~ which is necessary to bring us from death in sin to life in Christ. It is what it is. We are resurrected in spirit. Yes. Actually, I thought you said that at some point. Or maybe it was EWQ, bless his heart... :)...
  16. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    Hmmm, let's see here... Yes they were... :) No, in their whole being, they were in uncorrupted spiritual union with God, alive to Him. Before the Fall of Genesis 3. Died in spirit; and thus this spiritual union with God was broken. Spiritual condition... dead in their sin, at enmity with...
  17. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    "Except all the saved were judged long before that final resurrection and judgment" They were justified by God (declared/made righteous before God) and thus saved ~ but not judged ~ before the final resurrection and judgment. All will be judged at the final Judgment, as clearly seen in Matthew...
  18. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    Cool. So we agree. Except for the "can be looked at" thing; I would much rather that be "is." :) Because it is. :) I don't think Christ's resurrection is in view in Revelation 20, SI. See my post above to Timtofly. Well... it's not reason to get sideways at all, no. Okay, well, this is...
  19. PinSeeker

    Collosians 1:15-16

    Sure He is, absolutely. But what you say here is actually a contradiction of your statement that God's foreknowledge is His knowing it all before it happens. What you're doing with the latter is, you're actually ~ presumably inadvertently ~ putting God inside time. And like I said regarding...
  20. PinSeeker

    The gods of amil.

    LOL! Wow... Eventually, he did, yes, but he was still physically living directly after he (and Eve) partook of the forbidden fruit and ostensibly for a good period of time after that, considering, among other things, that he knew Eve thus and had some kiddos... :) But he did die that very...