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  1. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    Please understand that I'm committed to the authority of Scripture. However, without linguistic scholars in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek we would not have any Bible translations. God has placed this requirement on all people. Those who listened to Paul had to practise it: 'Now these [Berean] Jews...
  2. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    But you redefine 'whosoever' to make it a fixed number of the elect, predestined before the world began. That's not the meaning of 'πᾶς γὰρ ὃς ἂν ἐπικαλέσηται....' in Rom 10:13 (THGNT). That phrase, 'pas gar hos an apikalesetai...,' (quoting from Joel 2:32) means 'for everyone whoever shall...
  3. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    Mjh, In the OT also, the language of 'the people of God' is used of the Israelites in verses such as Judges 20:2 and 2 Samuel 14:13. There are parallel verses in the OT where they are called 'the people of the Lord' or 'a people holy to the LORD your God'. Oz The people of God are identified...
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    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    prism, I was responding to your censored statement: Do you mean the modern scholarship that denies the inerrancy and sufficiency of Scripture, the miracles and the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ? Exactly which modern scholarship are you referring to because many 'scholars' have varying...
  5. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    Which authors of modern liberalism have you read and paid attention to? There's a stack of modern scholars who are committed to the authority of Scripture. Here's a sample: Norman Geisler Wayne Grudem Craig Blomberg Ravi Zacharias Bruce Demarest Gordon Lewis Millard Erickson Gordon D Fee...
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    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    Anthony, That's your assertion about Joshua 24. You haven't demonstrated it by exegesis and exposition. As for those two verses from Ecclesiastes, to whom was the Book of Ecclesiastes written and from what perspective? ‘Meaningless! Meaningless!’ says the Teacher. ‘Utterly meaningless...
  7. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    Which evangelical, Bible-believing OT, NT and theologians have you read? Have you read the entirety of the late Dr Norman Geisler's 4 volumes of systematic theology. He was one of the authors of the Chicago Statement on Inerrancy.
  8. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    atp, I agree that John 6:44 teaches that people need to be 'drawn' by the Father to receive eternal life. However, does God only draw a select, fixed number of people for salvation? When I examine the context of 6:37, it states, 'All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes...
  9. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    atp, I sincerely apologise for causing you offense and interrupting your topical conversation with GodsGrace on the atonement. It was not my intent to cause you this kind of upset. I encourage you to use non-offensive language when responding to others and me. Proverbs 15:1 gives wise advice...
  10. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    However, we are dealing with 3 translated languages of the original MSS where the meaning of words, grammar and syntax are very different to English. If it weren't for modern scholarship, we wouldn't have translations of the Bible.
  11. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    Mjh, I agree with you on one point: There are specific people of God. They were under the Old Covenant and since the cross & resurrection, they are under the requirements of the New Testament. It's no good giving me a string of verses from OT and NT that encourage the theology you try to...
  12. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    atp, That's because this is what Hitler did: ‘Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing' (Matt 23:37 NIV). Or as the NIRV puts it...
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    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    prism, Scripture is clear about the sovereignty of God and human responsibility: ' “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would...
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    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    atp, My mobile phone and Internet tethering was playing up this morning and my provider didn't want to grant me any more calls and texts even though I'd paid my bills and had 100GB in the data bank. Even though I could use the Internet and engage with the provider online, she still needed me to...
  15. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    atp, I wish you would engage in discussion instead of making all these assertions that try to dumb me down.
  16. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    It does destroy OSAS. The P indicates that those who persevere to the end of life are saved saints.
  17. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    Where do you think the 'Spen' in OzSpen comes from? My mother called me Spencer because she liked the name but then found out that the name of Winston Churchill was Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill. Now I'm privileged to be called 'Spencer' but OzSpen online. You say: That's not how I...
  18. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    What is a strawman fallacy? Is the word 'strawman' in the Word? Is the word Trinity in the Word? Is the word Bible in the Word? You are being contradictory here as your post is 2 lines long and contains NOTHING of the Word in it. Get real. We cannot have a conversation if you insist that every...
  19. OzSpen

    Total Inability: Genesis 1-4

    That's your assertion/opinion. Please provide evidence for your case.