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Jay, In basic terms, what is the nature of this 'second death'? When do people experience it? Gen 2:17 uses the imperfect tense, to'khal, with the negative to', this requiring the strongest possible prohibition regarding the fruit in the garden, 'You must not eat'. Old Testament scholar, H C...

Stan, I find it to be irresponsible to make a statement, 'The soul that sins shall die', when you don't define what death you refer to. Is it physical death or eternal death/damnation? I'm not asking for a dissertation. That's your hyperbole. I simply want to know which kind of death you refer...

Jay, Do you refer to Gehenna when you speak of the 'second death'? Oz

H2S, I wish you would provide Bible references for us to discuss to debate whether your statement is true or false. Are you referring to Gen 6:1-4 (NIV): When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of...

Stan, Grabbing a portion of one verse from Ezek 18:20 to try to prove your point is not responsible exegesis: 19 “Yet you say, ‘Why should not the son suffer for the iniquity of the father?’ When the son has done what is just and right, and has been careful to observe all my statutes, he shall...

Stan, How, then, do you interpret these Scriptures? Hebrews 1:7 (NIV), 'In speaking of the angels he says, "He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire’ [citing Ps 104:4]. Hebrews 1:14 (NIV), 'Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit...

When in this thread did you state that the euphemism of 1 Sam 24:3, 'Cover his feet', was a figure of speech, a euphemism? You gave no examples so I'm left to understand you are making assertions of your own opinions. No translation is inspired/God-breathed. Only the original documents (the...

shnarkle, I can't see us getting any further in this discussion unless you understand that God used figures of speech in the God-breathed Scripture. They are not meant to be interpreted literally. Are Bible translations meant to help understanding of the text or to confuse the reader? ‘Cover...

DS, If that's the case, why does Scripture bother to teach: 'If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness' (1 John 1:9 ESV)? We continue to forgive our sins if we confess them to him. Oz

Nondenom, I also agree with election being taught in the Bible. However, is it unconditional election or conditional election? I refer you to the biblical basis for Conditional Election (the C in FACTS) [Cf. Article 1 of the 5 Articles of the Remonstrance]. Oz

Zachary, Paul wrote to Timothy: This charge I entrust to you, Timothy, my child, in accordance with the prophecies previously made about you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting this, some have made shipwreck of their faith, among whom...

shn, The translators translated 1 Sam 24:3 according to the meaning of the text. Translating word for word, without understanding the cultural meaning of 'cover his feet' is not translating to give English speaking people the meaning. So, what's the meaning of 'covered his feet' in 1 Sam 24:3...

I notice you didn't use any Scripture to support your statements. That makes them your opinion or assertions.

shnarkle, I do wish you would do your study to determine the meaning of this phrase, 'cover his feet'. It doesn't bring a meaning for this 'dullard' that you infer. The NIV translates 1 Samuel 24:3 as ''he came to the sheep pens along the way; a cave was there, and Saul went in to relieve...

marks, I am aware of The Hebrew/Aramaic New Testament Research Institute that includes some informative articles on the Hebraic influence on the NT: The Hebrew and Aramaic Origin of the “New Testament” An Aramaic Approach to the “Church Epistles” The Aramaic Origin of the New Testament Why...

Nondenom, When push comes to shove, don't the Calvinists make OSAS = eternal security = unconditional election? Matt 24:13 states, 'But the one who endures to the end will be saved' (NLT). That's why I prefer the language 'Perseverance of the Saints' that was supported by both John Calvin and...

GodsGrace, I was speaking with a woman last week about her son who, she said, became a Christian and was 'filled with the Spirit' (physical evidence of speaking in tongues) when he was aged 11. She said he had wandered away from God and is now living in a homosexual relationship - at age 38...

Dove, I urge you not to begin a new post with a heading like you've made: Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!! The language of 'Garbage teaching' closes down communication. I find it better if you provide the reasons why you disagree with OSAS. A heading like this would be better to...

FH, If your definition of 'human spirit' is correct and does not refer to that which is eternal and is not significant, how do you reconcile this with these biblical statements? The spirit leaves the body at death: James 2:26 (ESV): ‘For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also...

Jane, Historically, that is not the teaching of modalism. Got Questions has an excellent summary of the heresy from the second and third centuries of modalism: Modalism and Monarchianism are two false views of the nature of God and of Jesus Christ that appeared in the second and third...