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  1. keithr

    Who is : The Original Bible Corrector

    Hi Wrangler. Following on from my previous post, note that in Mark 12:29, that you quote in your signature message, that Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy 6:4 which says, "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God. Yahweh is one" (WEB), but the Greek manuscripts were altered to use kurios (translated as Lord...
  2. keithr

    Hell

    Note that in that verse it is also Gehenna, not hades.
  3. keithr

    Hell

    Ok, I'll try one more time. ;) No, I say sheol in the Old Testament is sometimes translated as hell (and sometimes as "the pit" or "the grave"), and hades (the equivalent of sheol) in the New Testament is also translated as hell. (Peter in Acts 2:27 quotes "you will not leave my soul in Hades...
  4. keithr

    Who is : The Original Bible Corrector

    Indeed. However, we have to deal with translations into English of God's word, and the majority, if not all, of those translations have errors or 'corrections' in them. For example, Jesus said in prayer to God, near the end of his ministry on the night of the Last Supper, “I have made your...
  5. keithr

    Hell

    I have more than one Bible translation. BTW, it's Gehenna, not Gehanna. I was quoting the World English Bible. Examples of other translations that say Gehenna are the Tree Of Life (translation by Messianic Jews), literal translations such as the Literal Standard Version and Young's Literal...
  6. keithr

    Hell

    The passage says (Mat 5:27-29): “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery;’ but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away...
  7. keithr

    No authority!

    Note it wasn't the key that was given to Peter, but "keys". In fact there were two keys for two doors. The first key, on the day of Pentecost, to open the door to the Kingdom of Heaven for all Jews; three and one-half years later he used the other key and threw open the door to the Gentiles...
  8. keithr

    Hell

    Hell (sheol in Hebrew, hades in Greek) is where everyone goes when they die. It is the grave, or the state of death. Jesus compared it to a deep sleep (John 11:11-14): ... and after that, he said to them, “Our friend, Lazarus, has fallen asleep, but I am going so that I may awake him out of...
  9. keithr

    No authority!

    Christ's church was not founded on Peter. The passage (Matthew 16:13-18) says: 13) Now when Jesus came into the parts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?” 14) They said, “Some say John the Baptizer, some, Elijah, and others...
  10. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:5-10

    Correct. You don't seem to have understood Jesus' explanation for why you need to be born again. He said, "Unless a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God". He did not say "unless you are born again you will not have eternal life". No it's not! No Christian, nor any...
  11. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:5-10

    I'm not sure what the Mormons believe, but the Jehovah's Witnesses probably believe something similar (because they are very keen on Bible study!). However, I am not, nor have I ever been a Jehovah's Witness. I have already elaborated! John 3:36 says, "He that believeth on the Son hath...
  12. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:5-10

    I did not state that Christians don't need to be born again, so I don't need to reconsider it. I had stated that that we don't need to be born again in order to escape death, i.e. we don't need to be born again to be resurrected. You had implied that only Christians can have eternal life and...
  13. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:5-10

    As I referenced in reply #82, it's from Revelation 20: (Rev 20:4) I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as didn’t worship the beast nor his image, and...
  14. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:5-10

    Genesis 2:17 says nothing about a "second" death. It simply states, "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die", where "thou shalt surely die" is more precisely translated "dying thou shalt die" (KJV footnote). And that is what happened. The very day they ate the fruit...
  15. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:5-10

    Nothing that I wrote denied the second death, nor the consequences of our sins! Daniel 12:2 is referring to the resurrection, and some of those who are resurrected "to shame and everlasting contempt" will suffer the second death. In Mark 9:1 Jesus says, to his disciples and "the multitude"...
  16. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:5-10

    That's a very poor paraphrase, that changes the meaning. There is no mention of whether those standing there were saved or not saved. It also doesn't say they will die when they see God's kingdom being established, nor that this will be at the time of judgement. It does say that they won't...
  17. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:2-4

    How do you interpret (in bold), "But we have this treasure in clay vessels, that the exceeding greatness of the power may be of God, and not from ourselves"? You need to take it in the context of the whole of the preceding chapter (chapters and verses were invented hundreds of years after the...
  18. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:2-4

    Paul says at the end of the preceding chapter (8 verses earlier - it's part of the same message): (2Cor 3:18) But we all, with unveiled face seeing the glory of the Lord as in a mirror, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord, the Spirit. God works in...
  19. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:2-4

    Yes, I agree with you. Yes, I agree again. As I typed it I was thinking that really it means that those begotten again would try to not sin, but we are still imperfect while in these fleshly bodies so inevitably we do sometimes still commit sins. Perhaps I should agree that our salvation is...
  20. keithr

    Your Thoughts: 1 Thessalonians 1:2-4

    The previous verse (v6) says: "seeing it is God who said, “Light will shine out of darkness,” who has shone in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." So is it the "the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ" that is...