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  1. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I’m not raging mad at you and I can take criticism, my point was that you made a very nice statement to me which I appreciate and then your very next reply started with unneeded criticism and accusations. If you ever want to converse with someone and start off like that the other persons back...
  2. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So who went into Sodom and Gomorrah with Abraham?
  3. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You say that you want to converse better and then you say something stupid like "So don't play games with the texts involved" Why would you say that which changes my attitude towards you? You characterize me as someone who plays games with scripture I already quoted the verse that proves it...
  4. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yet premils reject this verse Romans 5:17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! The problem is that...
  5. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    See post #411, there is no contradiction with amil here, if your not truly saved you never reign
  6. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm once saved always saved but your fruits prove if your are saved. That being said, amil doesn't contradict anything, you only reign if you are truly saved God knows if you are truly saved or not 1 John 2 18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is...
  7. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Really? Yes, the name Israel is traditionally understood to mean "he who wrestles with God" or "God prevails," originating from Jacob's encounter with God in Genesis. Biblical Origin The name Israel was given to Jacob after a dramatic encounter described in Genesis 32:22–32, where Jacob...
  8. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So did Jesus wrestle with Jacob?
  9. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    At the regeneration of all things this earth and our bodies as we know it will be gone and Matthew 19:28 is the judging throne. The reigning from Revelation 20 will be expired by then. Revelation 3:21 is just a promise that who overcomes will reign spiritually with Him. The context of the...
  10. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes that has happened with me too
  11. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Because that was still part of the first coming it’s more of what happens during the comings like defeating sin and death in the first advent or the final defeat of satan at the end our world that were the first and second coming, but I was showing you you’re description of a coming not mine...
  12. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    But Jesus went from heaven to the earth in between His death and resurrection
  13. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Thanks for the nice comments at the top I will get back to this
  14. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Once again this was your words not mine and you actually said. "No, because the first coming was from heaven to Earth, and so is the second coming. If that happened in the past as you believe, it would have been the second coming." You said "If that happened in the past as you believe, it...
  15. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Clearly verse 12 hasn't been fulfilled in your view not mine
  16. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You are actually saying that the biblical writer was wrong over your view of the second coming. Really. Where does the bible say that there are only two coming? Once again this was your words not mine and you actually said. "No, because the first coming was from heaven to Earth, and so is...
  17. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes amen He reigns now
  18. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So He's sitting at the right hand of the Father until He makes His enemies His footstool but also on the earth at the same time? So doesn't Jesus currently sitting on the right hand of the Father at this moment prove that He is reigning now? Revelation 3 To the Church in Philadelphia 7 “To the...
  19. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes that point of sin on the new earth has been avoided
  20. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So? What does the DOTL in the future have to do with the past 2000 years ago? I'm saying that when it comes to the phrase 'in that day', that we can identify the era of time meant via the context and verses surrounding it. For example, the DOTL. There is only one DOTL in the future and it...