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  1. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So how does Psalms 110:1 line up with a literal thousand year reigning on the earth? The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. This verse states that Jesus will sit at the Fathers right hand until He makes His enemies His foot stool...
  2. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I don't think that they are the same events either or is there a literal battle of Armageddon my point was that Jesus speaks judgment with t the sword of His mouth His words Jesus spoke judgment on Jerusalem in Matthew chapters 23 and 24
  3. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    It’s not my argument it’s yours because you said “No, because the first coming was from heaven to Earth, and so is the second coming. If that happened in the past as you believe, it would have been the second coming.” and Jesus did go to heaven and then come back before He ascended. I think...
  4. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    But you just said “No, because the first coming was from heaven to Earth, and so is the second coming. If that happened in the past as you believe, it would have been the second coming.” I then just quoted scriptures showing that Jesus ascended to the Father and then came back to the earth, so...
  5. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No it’s hasn’t happened yet
  6. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Then how would you explain what Jesus said here John 20 17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Now we know the Thomas touched Jesus don’t...
  7. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Do you not that you have many times ignored what I say in my post and then make a ranting statement? You don’t always address what I say
  8. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So then in your understanding of leaving and coming back being a second coming the second coming would actually be when Jesus rose from the dead after His spirit had left His body on the cross How would you also then explain Revelation 2:16? What number coming was that if He came Then?
  9. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes of course it’s God the Father that’s what I was saying as the same as Matthew says in the wicked tenants parable. My point was that Jesus comes in judgement and fights with the sword of His mouth His word and He speaks judgement and at times uses other to do it like in revelation chapter 2...
  10. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Do you really that that the living water in Zechariah 14 isn’t the same living water as below? John 7 37 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers...
  11. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes of course I didn’t dispute that just like the parable of the wicked tenants but as I said in Matthew 22 sthe king sent His armies
  12. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You,claimEd that “in that day” from Zechariah 12-14 also speaks of the future, that day is the day of the Lord
  13. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    It actually says says that the King sent His Amy and Jesus is the leader and He does the fighting with the sword of His mouth His word like in the verse below Revelation 2 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
  14. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes but there’s always hope and other people reading the post
  15. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm not claiming that "the second coming" has already come but Jesus did come in judgement
  16. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Not sure how that's full Preterism, I'm not one
  17. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You are doing the exact same thing as you claim that we are doing yet you are right and we are wrong! You say that we jump all over and then you claim that the day of the Lord goes all the way from the first century and then for three thousand more years. If the day of the Lord can be that long...
  18. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So your saying that Jesus will return when you say hum. Christians have been wrong for 2000 years now. In the first century Jerusalem was attacked Jewish women were rapped Jews were exiled Jews didn't leave the city because they died there Jesus stood on the mount of Olives The saints fled...
  19. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm sure that we have gone over this before a few times but its not the same when the bible has used a thousand t not to mean a thousand more than once. But my point was that Dave sees "in that day" to be over two thousand years and counting but a thousand years to only be a thousand years...
  20. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I do find it interesting that you think that "in that day" started in the first century and is still happening today but you still think that the thousand years is only a thousand years.