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  1. Truth7t7

    5. Revelation: The New Jerusalem.

    100% Correct! Revelation 20:15KJV 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. The view the poster presents is found in dispensationalism's (Dual Covenant Theology) It falsely teaches a path to eternal life for the Jew who deny's Jesus Christ, and...
  2. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I strongly disagree, both verses Luke 21:24 & Revelation 11:2 are speaking of an earthly Jerusalem You neglect to observe the context of scripture in Revelation Chapter 11 and replace the literal physical Jerusalem on earth with a spiritual New Jerusalem You will closely note Revelation 11:2...
  3. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Gentile refers to any person who is non-Jewish As stated in post #696 above, it's my opinion that Luke 21:24 & Revelation 11:2 is the same future 42 month event in Jerusalem being trampled under foot by the gentiles It's my opinion that Israel's blind leaders are going to take the Muslim Holy...
  4. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    It's my opinion that Luke 21:24 & Revelation 11:2 as seen below is the very same event in parallel teachings, and it will take 42 months in fulfilling the times of the gentiles in Jerusalem being trampled under foot, scripture interprets itself clearly and this doesn't represent 2,000 ongoing...
  5. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    OK got it, your 2,000 year gap is your belief that Jerusalem has been trampled under feet roughly for the past 2,000 and waiting You believe a roughly 2,000 year gap is seen between verses 24 & 25 below? Luke 21:24-27KJ 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away...
  6. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Great response, were in agreement! You haven't posted scripture that supports a pre-trib rapture because it doesn't exist
  7. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    That's your opinion above and nothing more As you were shown, the scripture states Daniel's AOD will be (Placed/Set Up) suggesting a statue/Idol, Daniel's AOD is a future event unfulfilled We Disagree Jesus Is The Lord
  8. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    We Disagree, the "Great Tribulation" will begin when Daniel's "Future" AOD takes place as shown, the abomination will be (placed/set up) possibly an image of Johns Beast described Rev 13:14, the great tribulation will then start at this time for 42 months Rev 13:5 I'm fully aware of your...
  9. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Scripture interprets itself, and the abomination that makes desolate will be placed/set up by evil human hands in the sanctuary in the most strongholds, they will worship and promote this false god with gold, silver, precious stones and pleasant things and "Set Up" strongly suggest a...
  10. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Please show me scripture that represents your claim of a pre-trib rapture, waiting?
  11. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Seventy Weeks doesn't account for 2,000 years and waiting for the second coming Israelite believes the great tribulation took place in 70AD in Roman Armies and Jerusalems destruction RWB believes the great tribulation "Started" when Jesus was on this earth, and it's continued for the past...
  12. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Thanks for the response, the many partial preterist posters have a slightly different belief regarding Matthew Chapter 24, sorry I forgot your exact belief OK you believe the "Great Tribulation" as seen in Matthew 24:21 as taking place in 70AD just as the majority of Reformed "Partial...
  13. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I was right, you believe Matthew 24:21 started in the 1st century 70AD and has been ongoing "SINCE" that time, a roughly 2,000 year tribulation and waiting? Thats 100% "MALARKEY"! Yes believing and teaching that the "Great Tribulation" began in the 1st century is 100% a false preterist...
  14. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I would like you to post scripture that supports a pre-trib rapture, waiting?
  15. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes I have shown "Several Times" that the Olivet Discourse seen in Matthew Chapter 24 and the 3 items below is the guideline in defining a preterist RWB falsely believes and teaches that Daniel's AOD started its fulfillment in the 1st century, and it pertains to preaching the gospel and...
  16. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    The word "Preterist" means nothing more than something that has already taken place regarding (Eschatology/Prophecy) primarily in the 1st century, Jesus walked the earth during this time frame 1st century Daniel's AOD in Matthew 24:15 Nor the "Great Tribulation" in Matthew 24:21 have started or...
  17. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Daniel is "Very Specific" on the abomination of desolation, overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate Overspreading abominations has absolutely nothing to do with preaching the gospel to the nations or persecutions as you suggest Daniel 9:27KJV 27 And he shall confirm the...
  18. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Sorry but the world hasn't been experiencing the elect fleeing Judea/Jerusalem to the mountains for 2,000 years and waiting The world nor Judea/Jerusalem has seen or experienced a time of trouble that will never be seen again in earth's history, "No Nor Ever Shall Be" a time to be shortened or...
  19. Truth7t7

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes claiming that the "Great Tribulation" seen in Matthew 24:21 began during the Lord's time on earth is 100% preterist, as it claims the "Beginning" has been fulfilled when it hasn't