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  1. OzSpen

    Limited Atonement VS Universal Atonement

    Dave, Would you please provide biblical evidence to support your statements here? Oz
  2. OzSpen

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    GodsGrace, Church historian, Henry Chadwick, wrote the article on 'St John the Apostle' in Encyclaepedia Britannica, which states: Polycrates, bishop of Ephesus, claims that John’s tomb is at Ephesus, identifies him with the beloved disciple, and adds that he “was a priest, wearing the...
  3. OzSpen

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    GodsGrace, Why is it that Protestant churches have not been planted in your region of Italy? I have at least a dozen to choose from in my suburb, plus a couple RCC. There's a RC school down the road from where I live. Our federal govt has just announced a big $$$ package to help fund RC and...
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    GodsGrace, Earlier in the thread, I suggested starting with the Gospel of Mark as it is understood to be the first Gospel written. Then I'd go to the Book of Acts as it explains how the crucified, risen Christ was proclaimed and the church was started and grew across the empire. Also, one of...
  5. OzSpen

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    GodsGrace, That's if he's telling us the truth of his being 17-years-old and is a JW. Mister Michael said in the thread, 'Other bible jws use' #109, 'Who cares if it [JW organisation] tells the truth as long as it doesn't tell lies fine with me'. This is a very skewed version of the difference...
  6. OzSpen

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    At 17 (which is his stated age), he can still get to know the JW organisation by seeking information about who were the members of the translation committee and their qualifications in biblical languages. However, he's ducking and weaving about providing this information.
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    jbf, One of the finest biblical Greek linguists of the 20th century was the late Bruce Metzger. He wrote an assessment of the New World Translation in, 'The Jehovah’s Witnesses and Jesus Christ: A Biblical and Theological Appraisal'. Even though he wrote this article in 1953, I find its...
  8. OzSpen

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    jbf, That's why I wanted to know from the JW who the translators were of the NWT and their knowledge of the biblical languages. Oz
  9. OzSpen

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    Michael, That's what happens when you cherry pick 2 words, 'a JW', from a sentence I wrote. The entire sentence at #13 was: 'John's Gospel has some challenging theology in it, especially for the JW, e.g. John 1:1; John 5:17-18; John 8:58; John 10:30-33.' My sentence was not derogatory...
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    GodsGrace, John's Gospel has some challenging theology in it, especially for the JW, e.g. John 1:1; John 5:17-18; John 8:58; John 10:30-33. I'd recommend starting with what is considered to be the first Gospel, the Gospel of Mark, and then go to the Book of Acts which describes the preaching...
  11. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Please tell us which Hebrew scholars claim that the New World Translation 'is a masterpiece' of a translation?
  12. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    So is it OK with you that translators of the Hebrew and Aramaic OT have no expertise in knowledge of the words, grammar and syntax of the OT to translate into English or any other language? Are you advocating that any person with no training in koine Greek can translate the NT into any...
  13. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Ben, How can you conclude he's not a JW when he wrote in this thread, 'i don't question my watchtower i trust it'? He said he's not a baptised JW but when he trusts the Watchtower unreservedly, that sounds awfully like a JW or JW-in-training to me. Oz
  14. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Willie, Who is Sean? I don't understand the question you ask. Oz
  15. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    What is 'bible truth'?
  16. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, These are false accusations against me: I have never ever heard of the 'Ten top ways to defeat JWs'. That's a new one on me. 'it sounds like you use every opposing claim made by those people who make such lists such as. Who the translator'. It is absolutely false that I 'use every...
  17. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    You have redefined truth with that sentence. Don't you want to know if the Watchtower tells the truth with its translation of OT and NT? Don't you want to know the biblical truth of what happens at death for believer and unbeliever. I'm staggered that you take the line that you don't care 'if...
  18. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, I most definitely do not hate JWs. I live in a 55+ village and one of my neighbours (across the road) is a JW. I speak with her semi-regularly. She's not well at the moment and a biopsy has been taken from her thyroid. I love JWs, as I love you, and I speak with them whenever they...
  19. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    I think I can understand that it would be an awesome task for a young man to ask for details about translators. However, I'm asking a question to determine if the Watchtower organisation can be trusted to give you correct information about the translators. Why would you not want to know more...
  20. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Ben, There is no space between words in the original Greek. There are no punctuation marks in the original Greek. So any punctuation marks in John 10:35 were put there by the ASV translators (the version I quoted) or the KJV translators. In this verse there is not a word that says the...