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  1. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    What text? We are discussing the difference between getting the meaning from the text (exegesis) and adding meaning to the text (eisegesis).
  2. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, You are engaging in the use of another logical fallacy: Argument from Silence. It is an error in reasoning. Oz
  3. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, That is not what I asked, so your response is a red herring logical fallacy. A red herring also is called changing the subject, clouding the issue. Those who use it (and it's what you did with your response) make an attempt to redirect the argument to another issue with which they...
  4. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    You were not the one to whom I was responding. When a person adds to what the text states, that person does not get the meaning out of the text (called exegesis) but inserts meaning into the text (called eisegesis). See these brief articles: What is the difference between exegesis and...
  5. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, My question did not relate to the founder of the JWs knowing Greek or Hebrew. However, since the JW organisation has translated a Bible, the translators need to have had an in-depth understanding of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. Why can't you obtain their names to share here? Oz
  6. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    This is what John 10:35 states: 'If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken)....' There is not a word in this verse that says the KJV is 'the perfectly preserved word of God'. You have imposed that meaning on the text. Do you know what that...
  7. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, However, you could obtain the names by asking the organisation to provide them to you, along with qualifications in the biblical languages. This is important because if translators don't know the grammar and syntax of a language, they can lead us astray with translations that are not...
  8. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, I'd like to encourage you to question whether the Watchtower can be trusted in giving the names of translators of the NWT and their qualifications in linguistics. Could the Watchtower be trusted as an organisation, or does it need to be questioned? This is what the NWT encourages you...
  9. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    I would like to know their names and their qualifications in biblical languages to understand if they were capable of providing an accurate translation, using the original languages. Isn't that a reasonable request?
  10. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    He doesn't need to mention he's posting here. All he needs to ask is: 'I notice in the introduction to The New World Translation that it states the NWT was translated by the "New World Bible Translation Committee". I'd like to know, for my own interest, who was on this Committee. Did they know...
  11. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Why not ask a long term JW to find this information for you so you can share with me?
  12. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Thank you jbf. Nevertheless, at 17 years of age and a JW he needs to know how the JW organisation has concealed the names and linguistic qualifications of the 'New World Bible Translation Committee'. If a person wants to use and recommend a Bible, it is important to know the translators...
  13. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Who said so?
  14. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, Are you a Jehovah's Witness? If so, why can't you obtain the names from your JW organisation of the translators and their linguistic qualifications, on the 'New World Bible Translation Committee' (June 1, 1984 edition, p. 5)? Oz
  15. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    Michael, Please share with us the names of the translators of the New World Translation and their linguistic qualifications in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. Oz
  16. OzSpen

    other bible jws use.

    And you selectively translate one theos (theon in the accusative) as God and the other as god. Seems like a blind spot here! :rolleyes:
  17. OzSpen

    Omniscience, Omnipresence, Omnipotence, Omnibenevolence.

    Nancy, I accept those attributes because I'm an evangelical, born-again Christian whose life has been changed through an encounter with the living Christ. However, I accept these attributes of God because I believe the Bible to be the authoritative, inerrant Word of God in the original...
  18. OzSpen

    Are We Required to Tithe?

    GodsGrace, Tithing is biblical (for Old Covenant) but not Christian (for New Covenant). Oz
  19. OzSpen

    Regarding the Holy Spirit and His gifts I believe...

    APAK, Please convince me from 1 Cor 14 that the gift of tongues is the 'legitimate gift of foreign languages' and 'it was a gift of foreign comprehensible languages' (your wording). I find it blasphemous that you describe the gift of tongues today as speaking in 'babble'. See: Gift of tongues...
  20. OzSpen

    Regarding the Holy Spirit and His gifts I believe...

    APAK, Have you overlooked these verses from I Cor 14? They refute your view: 2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.... 4 Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who...