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As you continue on your straw man argument, I will leave no other response than this.

From my analogy salvation is not only the journey but also the destination. You can not claim the destination unless it is fact. There is only the saved and the unsaved, and God knows everyone's final solution. In His perspective of eternity he knows everyone's outcome already, thereby he is...

It is the context of the verse that says they will not continue in the faith... not my interpretation. You look at these and say they will not be saved, as I agree. In the end their fate is no salvation. We can say "if" all we like, but that is changing the specifics that make up this...

My first response is to your straw man argument. There is no reason a faith need be dead to precede good works. God gives a perfectly good working faith. The seed must be planted and watered. God must give the increase, then it produces fruit. The fruit can not precede the seed. To show...

You have put the cart before the horse here. Faith is what drives our works. If as you say works give life to faith, why were the Jews not saved by their works? Paul writes extensively about this, and you speak directly against what he teaches us through divine scripture. Another false...

Faith is not a work, even though the work of faith is salvation. This is to say faith works, but you don't need to work to have faith. In the John passage the answer given by Jesus is "to believe." Thereby Jesus is replying there is no "work" that is needed, only faith. If I tell you the Red...

Yes, and the gospel Jesus was speaking of, of the woman washing his feet, does not lead to salvation. This one clearly does: 1 Corinthians 15:1-11 1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are...

They were never in a "saved" position otherwise they would have been saved. 1Timothy 4:1 1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their...

I give you what the bible calls the gospel, it is you who is demanding more. I don't eliminate any of Jesus' words, that is another false accusation. In the context of Paul's letter what is preached is contained in the section that is bolded in red: 1 Corinthians 15:1-11 1 Now I make known...

And these were never going to be saved...ever. The evidence is in the prophesy of them not having a genuine faith to begin with. If the faith is genuine it leads to salvation. And to be more accurate also, God chose us, we did not chose Him. My faith is based on God's eternal sustaining...

What I see is a frame of mind, or a system of thought that is incorrect. I never argue against good works, repentance (in the moral perspective), confession, baptism, communion, or anything else related to the faith. My disagreement comes in when one says these are necessary for salvation...

This is what the bible calls the gospel: 1 Corinthians 15:1-11 1 Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in...

I do say salvation is not irrespective of faith...in other words those who are saved do continue in the faith...again loss of salvation is a fallacy, because God is omniscient (all knowing) and transcendent...those who are saved are the only ones saved.

And you sinned by falsely accusing me....

More scripture disputing the false claim that baptism and or works are necessary for salvation: Titus 3:4-8 4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, 5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by...

I am going to refer you to the quote in #46 and #48...seeing as you did not answer any of my direct questions, perhaps you may want to comment on my position. You speak of what one must do...I speak of what one does as a Christian...you call it a requirement...I call it a fulfillment. As to...

I think this is a question of first cause...God created the volcanoes, as well as the earth that the volcano is on...it is God the measures the bounds the volcano will flow to. This verse comes to mind. Daniel 4:30-32 30 “The king reflected and said, ‘Is this not Babylon the great, which I...

Yes I think we agree in this subject to a point, yet sanctification and righteousness do not equate either. Our righteousness is based upon our faith in Christ's death, burial, and resurrection. As the scriptures say all our works are but menstrual rags, but His work, and our faith in such...

John 6:26-29 26 Jesus answered them and said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, you seek Me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate of the loaves and were filled. 27 “Do not work for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to...

In this it is apparent you are content to misrepresent what Jesus says. It is also apparent you are content to distort the gospel. James 3:1 1 Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment. I will pray for you.