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Concern about others.

Let's go simple here: Calvin says man can do nothing good, at all, unless "elected" (whatever they think that means) Yet, Jesus, Himself, said that the Gentiles knew how to give their children good things. And He further said that the pagans love those who love them. You know we could...

One thing to remember in all of this is that virtually ALL Denominations really DO get their theories of Doctrine straight off the pages of the Bible. ALL OF THEM! It is a matter of the preconceived ideas one harbors when they read specific verses. Yes, the Doctrines we love, and even those...

Several Denominations are based on that "Westminster Confession of Faith." [WCF] (Just reading it turns my stomach.) Yes, Calvin speaks like man is lower than Whale ______ , and that is on the bottom of the ocean.

Basically, Presbyterian. (And they state it mildly, compared to the way Calvin wrote of it.)

BTW, this is what The Westminster Confession has to say about the depravity of man (Just in case anyone wondered.): CHAPTER 6 Of the Fall of Man, of Sin, and of the Punishment Thereof 1. Our first parents, being seduced by the subtlety and temptation of Satan, sinned, in eating the forbidden...

I was likewise put on the spot by the lead speaker at a healing seminar, when I stupidly asked a question that had him immediately tell me to come forward to administer God's healing to anyone who had the symptoms I asked about. I soon had seven people surrounding me, and I basically just...

Reading what Calvin says it is, (in Institutes), is enough to make you wonder why every Calvinist hasn't already gone ahead and killed themselves.

I think all of us are...….. (except for one or two. LOL)

I think everyone sees it.

Well, that post just blew the idea that you don't sin right out of the water. LOL

PW, I love the fact that you actually "think", instead of just reading a word, and deciding it can only mean one thing. More of us need to be humble enough to learn from God that way. (THIS is the kind of "encouragement" we spoke about.)

I'm not sure Arminius would appreciate being "teafed" ….. no matter who "encoirages" it.

"... and while we were yet these exact kinds of willful sinners (enemies of Him), God sent His Son to die for us."

"Power" to believe? Is not "believing" a choice that we are told to make? Even the question you just asked demonstrates us making a choice about something.

I think THAT expressed it much more accurately. We are already "forgiven" if we continue in desiring (and trying) to follow Jesus.

Your only real problem seems to be your choice of words.

The only person here seeming to be making any sense is CL.

This says it a bit clearer. Romans 10:17 The Passion Translation (TPT) 17 Faith, then, is birthed in a heart that responds to God’s anointed utterance of the Anointed One. But, be aware and forewarned that "faith" is not just some religious sentiment. Faith is everywhere, and in all things...

I assume all of you Calvinists have John Calvin's FOUR BOOKS OF THE INSTITUTES OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION. (It kind of goes without saying you would have a copy.) I do too. But I have something more some of you might not have, and I thought I would offer it here... for anyone who would like to...