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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    They were saved from Egypt by Passover, and we are saved from slavery to sin through "Christ our Passover". They were saved in a type, not saved as an antitype as we are. Their salvation pointed to the reality of our salvation, it wasn't the real salvation that we have. Still, as Paul says, it...
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yeah, God did His righteousness, and God does His righteousness today : "obey, for it is God is at work in us to will and to do for His good pleasure". When God is at work in us to will and to do for His good pleasure, is that not God's righteousness?
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    The Jews, through Passover, were saved, but they still sinned in the wilderness, so God destroyed them in His wrath, and they forfeited what was promised--this was written down to teach us who, through "Christ our Passover Lamb", are saved, that if we live in sin after being saved we will also...
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    How is God's righteousness "a righteousness of my own"?
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yep, He saved us--and, according to 1 Co 10, He showed us that if we live sinfully after that salvation, we'll still be destroyed in His wrath and not inherit the promise, like the Jewish Christians were "storing up wrath" for their hypocrisy in Ro 2. As Ro 14:23 shows, the Christian who...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Walking in faith is not works/self righteousness, it is grace/God's righteousness.
  7. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    ? All sins are debts, so all the sins in your "list" would be "debts".
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    "Works" pertains to "a righteousness of my own", but "God's righteousness is revealed from faith to faith", so when someone walks in faith, that is not the "filthy rags" of "a righteousness of my own", but "fine linen bright and clean" (Rv 19:7,8) of God's righteousness--accordingly, the one who...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Sounds like you're interested in the idea that there are standalone verses. I'm not. I encourage you to post your own thread about it, not commandeer someone else's thread.
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So, you believe in "stand alone" Scripture verses--based on that, it seems there is no argument reconciling seemingly irreconcilable verses that will interest or persuade you. Sounds good. Enjoy your conclusions.
  11. GracePeace

    Trusting in God's Promises? or fearing the circumstances? (Numbers 13:1-15:41)

    The "one law" (Ex 12:49) all believers are "under" (Ro 6:14) is "each man must be fully convinced in his own mind" (Ro 14:23), living "as unto the Lord" "with thanks" (Ro 14:6). The Christian knows Jesus, Whose Name is "God Is Our Righteousness" (Jer 23:6). "God's righteousness is revealed from...
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Your basic argument against the OP is that "Scripture is not consistent with itself--it contradicts itself--so there's no point in trying to make it make sense". On how many levels is it incoherent? Are any of its sentences coherent? If that's your argument, then enjoy your conclusions--I have...
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    It has worked. Did you care to address how it has worked?
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1. "No condemnation for those in Christ" is not up for debate, because it is a word-for-word quote from Romans 8:1. 2. It seems you did not read the OP before responding to it, because, if you had, you would've (or should've) understood that it is promulgating a view that (at least, to me, it...
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I'm not going to pursue this discussion with you any further unless you interact with the OP--the same way you used a random example, you can take the purport of the OP, and explain how you think it results in "one weird religion". What is "normal" and what is "weird"--what do you claim the...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    "Interesting" : no one in the early church held to what you hold to. No one "understood" Scripture as you do. Your "understanding" came with Luther and Calvin. The early church read the Scriptures similar to how I do. So, the early church, taught by the apostles, got it wrong, but Luther and...
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yeah, someone who remains "in Christ" continues to be eligible to receive the Spirit that is only "in His Son" (1 Jn 5:11)--but Scripture, again, has the condition that people "remain" in Him. If the Bible taught that it happened without exception, automatically, the teaching and command to...
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    You explicitly denied they were believers. I don't know why you are confused.
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Romans 7 shows Paul was a "slave" to sin--had no choice. Romans 8 speaks of Paul's saved state--still the contingency "IF you walk according to the flesh you will die" is given. 1 Corinthians 10 shows that the Jews' salvation from slavery was about Christianity--just as they sinned after they...