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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    @CadyandZoe Ro 14 is a snapshot, an illustration, of what it means to be "not under Law but under grace", to "serve in newness of the Spirit not oldness of the letter". They're "not under the jurisdiction of the law", but they're still "under" something--they're "under the jurisdiction" of the...
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    14:23 he does something he does not have full confidence is correct, thus breaking the law of faith (Ro 1:17, 3:27, 14:5).
  3. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    If you deny that faith is counted as righteousness, you are denying, suppressing, the truth that God does the right thing and forgives and cleanses us of all unrighteousness. He doesn't do the wrong thing--hold a grudge. He does the right thing--He glorifies Christ by forgiving us for His sake...
  4. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Nope. Romans 4 5However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness. 6And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: 7“Blessed are they whose lawless acts are...
  5. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    "How did you receive the Spirit? By hearing of faith or works of the Law?"--two ways of righteousness/eligibility for eternal life. "Faith is counted as righteousness."
  6. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Believing is the righteousness of God apart from the Law whereby we are gifted the blessing of Abraham, the Spirit, which is eternal life; a righteousness of my own would be by the Law, the knowledge of good and evil, which invariably leads (has since Adam) to the curse of death.
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    If being "in Christ" were about baptism, in particular, then wouldn't "not remaining" have to involve getting "un-baptized"? "Remaining" "in Christ", rather, is about keeping God's command to i) believe and ii) walk in love/faith (1 Jn 3:23,24)--that's the only way to reconcile Ro 8:1 with Ro 14:23.
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Obviously, some remarks I make are shorter, and some are more "comprehensive". They heard the Gospel and received the Spirit. They began by the Spirit but were seeking perfection by flesh (law). They had run well but were hindered after. They had been with God but were deserting Him. They had...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Patient is an understatement. I have been the worst person I have known. Thanks!
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yep, it's about Christ, and it has implications for what it means for His disciples to be abiding in Him--and 1 Jn 3:23,24 says if we keep His commands we abide in Him (also Jn 15). Keeping commands is not sinning. It's the opposite of sinning. See how that works? Then we see those who break His...
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    By "a little more", do you mean that I would change my mind? That's not going to happen without actual substantive reasons. When I look at the constellation of remarks Paul issues, the matter is transparent. Galatians 3 1O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus...
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    It actually is. Already did it, and God, on various fronts (various reasons), objected to it. If you're living like God is threatening you, that is construed as a lie against God, because that's not the "arrangement" we have with God. Lying about God is not faith, so how can you have grace in...
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yeah, I have been through a lot--you couldn't believe, you'd think i was lying--and it has shaken my faith to its very foundations. I need certainty. That only comes from the written word. That's what I've been aiming at since about 2009. Godliness comes from Grace--my dissenters have Grace, but...
  14. GracePeace

    Why Is Faith Counted As Righteousness (Ro 4:5)?

    You're off topic.
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1. Jesus says not to compare yourself to other humans. 2. No, I am trying to have a solid foundation in Scripture so that I won't collapse under pressure. That is not the same thing as godliness. I wouldn't compare myself with those who disagree with me.
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    This is why it says "their thoughts accusing or excusing them" at the judgment (Ro 2).
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Nope, Ro 2:6-16, 14:23, James 2--and the rest of the entire Bible, actually--show that final justification or condemnation are determined by whether we walk in grace and faith after we are justified by grace through faith in Christ (Ro 5:1). "The Law of Faith", obedience to which is counted as...
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    That's an interesting way to "discuss". I never said the Law was "abolished", as if God doesn't want us to love Him and others, I said the MEANS, the METHOD, is Grace, not the Law. Romans 14:23 I disagree with your characterization of these words which seem contrary to Ro 14:5,23. What did I...
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    The rule "each is to be convinced in his own mind" (Ro 14:5) is for believers. The one who breaks that rule, therefore, had been bound to it (is a believer). Ro 14:23 is a believer who breaks the rule. Paul wouldn't say "an unbeliever is bound to this rule for believers". Plus, he already...
  20. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    @CadyandZoe Tangentially, the only part that gets me, the bridge I'm missing, that I haven't crossed, is that the manner of living, walking by faith, being described is described as "giving thanks" (Ro 14:6), whereas I have the habit of focusing more on averting punishment, which is a serious...