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A body hast thou prepared for Me...who is Me? JWs do not believe the Son was begotten. They say He was created, just as do APAK, Wrangler, and F2F. Nor do JWs believe Jesus is divine, but only a good human. As do APAK, Wrangler, and F2F. JWs believe Jesus in His former existence was merely...

Every Jew spoke of God as his Father. So why did they get so upset when Jesus did the same? Jesus repeatedly spoke of God as His Father (Matthew 7:21, 10:32, 18:10, Luke 10:22, John 5:17, 6:65, 8:19, 8:28, 16:10 etc). In John’s Gospel alone there can be found over 30 instances where Jesus said...

Nowhere in scripture is begotten used to mean created. Begotten means bringing forth from one's own self. It isn't created as in creation... let there be, and it was. Jesus Himself declared that He came forth of the Father, a true literal Son. Read again the gospel of John and his letters...

Not eternal in the past. If He was eternal in the past, you reduce His Sonship to a metaphor. He was begotten before creation, and we know this because the Father created all things through His Son.

Let us not fall into the trap of presumption when reading scripture. Yes, first person plural...let us make... does not say 3,5, or 27. It is presumption to settle in a number. We do know God was talking to someone, and in the NT it is revealed Who that Someone was. It was God's Son. The...

I have. It's in Exodus. Clear as day. Christ in His pre-existent form and as sole Mediator between God and man, brought Israel out of Egypt, provided food and water, preserved their health and clothing, fought their enemies, protected them from serpents when they were faithful, provided light...

I see that oneness, the same oneness between Christ and His Father. That's a privilege sure, but there is a oneness between Father and Son that existed before the world was. Yes, I understand that. “3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and...

Oh, you mean the Rock that was Christ that spoke to Moses on the Mount?

The scripture says, only begotten son. What else is Jesus if not God? Begotten does not mean created from nothing. It means one is brought forth, and is of the same substance and nature of that from which he is begotten. In our case, we are human because our fathers are human. Despite...

While I agree wholeheartedly with everything else in your post, the above excerpt is where i begin to draw back, for 2 main reasons. First, co-equal denies the sense of submission and obedience of the Son throughout scripture, even in the OT...eg. Lo, I come to do Thy will o God. Second, and...

You do??? Seriously? It is my principle complaint against the councils and those who established the various creeds, that they attempted to formulate the"oneness" of the Father and Son, by defining it, then enforcing it on the church. But you and your church can? We cannot understand how the...

“For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich. ” 2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV Unfeigned Bible “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto...

“1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I...

Huh? No-one i have read of, heard, or spoken to has ever suggested that Jesus was born as a human in heaven prior to Bethlehem? Where do you get this stuff from? Your straw men are not very well built, they are like chaff in the wind. The Father sent His Son into the world to become a human...

While it may be true that Arius believed and taught doctrines that weren't orthodox, I believe we need to be circumspect in accusing others of being Arian such as the Catholic church did a long time ago. Anyone who the Catholic hierarchy disagreed with, they accused them of being Arian. Yet...

Surely you aren't suggesting that there are not any scriptures that state clearly that God sent His Son into the world?

You flatter me. No, scripture and Brakelite.

Then Jesus wasn't the "only begotten son" if begotten means created right?

As I said,

I don't have to much issue with anything you've said above, it's surprisingly orthodox. Just don't know why it's so important to you to present Christ as only human, as opposed to a divine being clothed in a human body, with 4000 years of inherited human weaknesses and weakened nature...