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Examples ARE needed and YOU need to demonstrate that they practised eisegesis.

And you give me no examples. Not one! 'One side may be prone to eisegesis' needs to be demonstrated. You have not done that. Assertions by you prove nothing. It has everything to do with the length of time for unbelievers experiencing eternal punishment - forever and ever, αἰῶνας αἰώνων, aeons...

Let's call a spade a spade. You didn't like my analogy of the oven that died because it demonstrated that death does not mean annihilation. It contradicts your annihilationist theology. Then you give what you think is a 'better analogy' but it says not a word about a bulb that died. Not a word...

So you are telling me that your Bible disagrees with my Bible. I provided you with biblical exposition that soul and spirit are used interchangeably - biblical evidence. You've given me your autonomous reasoning but no biblical exposition. I know which one I'm following and it's not your...

Phoneman, That's not the problem at all. The problem is that you are not able to discern that 'soul' and 'spirit' are used interchangeably in Scripture to indicate the same immaterial part of human beings. 1.1 The soul A human being has an inner, immaterial dimension and an outer, material...

Tom, Again you fail to deal with the issue I raised of HOW you engaged in a red herring fallacy. When you refuse to answer the content of my topic and are off and running with where you want to go, making it sound like the topic, you have committed a red herring fallacy. That's what you did and...

I make no logical fallacy allegations unless you commit them. Fallacious reasoning prevents logical discussion. That's what you have done here with this response, which is a red herring fallacy.

It doesn't seem to enter your thinking that when I say that 'my battery died' that it was not annihilated. This week, the oven in our kitchen died. It will not work but it has not ceased to exist. It continues as an oven but is in a state of wretched existence, so much so that my wife bought a...

You seem to forget that I cited a NT Greek distinguished exegete, R C H Lenski, who confirmed what "αἰῶνας αἰώνων" (aiwnas aiwnwn = aeons of aeons) means. You seem to have forgotten that he stated it was : Of course eon won't mean eternity to you because you don't want 'eternal punishment' to...

That's committing a begging the question fallacy - your conclusion agrees with your premise. We cannot have a rational discussion when you engage in the use of any logical fallacy. Asserting that 'the infallible [Roman Catholic] Church ... is the pillar and foundation of truth' proved NOTHING...

kerwin, Tartarus is NOT a place of similar situation to Sheol and Hades. It is only used once in the entire NT and is the place where fallen angels are cast. Do you read the Greek NT? It doesn't seem that you do. You say that Gehenna has no equivalent in Koine Greek. That is false. It is a...

Sheol was the Intermediate State of the OT that was translated as Hades by the Septuagint translators.

Do you know either Hebrew or Greek to be able to translate from those languages to English?

Phoneman, It's amazing the Scriptures you skip past to avoid the immortality of the soul. You claim: Souls need to be saved from death. James 5:20 KJV Yes, 'let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins'...

kerwin, These are the differences among these 3 types of Bible translation philosophies: Oz

Stranger, Ever heard of feeding rib fillet beef (that's Aussie for ribeye) into the mincer? Loving my enemies means I will warn them that rib fillet is special beef that needs to be prepared in a special way to get the best taste out of it. Mincing it with other inferior beef and fat in the...

BA, It is even worse in university for Christians who object to what the professor/teacher is teaching. I had an example of doing that in a doctoral class in a USA university and he swore at me before my peers in language I could not repeat here. He later apologised to me in private, but there...

I am a translator of the Greek NT into English and a paraphrased version is not equivalent to a dynamic equivalence version. This comparison chart demonstrates that a paraphrase translation is not synonymous with dynamic equivalence. This is the statement about the NLT from this chart...

kerwin, There you go again. The NLT is not a paraphrased version. It is dynamic-equivalence, which is translating meaning-for-meaning. If you want a paraphrased version, go to The Message or The Living Bible. The NLT is a completely new translation, dynamic-equivalence in translation philosophy...

That's an idiosyncratic Roman Catholic Church meaning of anathema. It is not what the Bible teaches or what the English language understands by the word, 'anathema'. . The Bible's understanding is: Execration means ' the act of cursing or denouncing; also : the curse so uttered'...