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  1. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Jane, Sooooooo you reject the writings of men who were ("claimed" to be) the students of the Apostles (Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp of Smyrna) but you accept the writings of WHOM?????? Christianity was mostly united with One Church, One message, One Truth......And you ask...
  2. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Yes Jane, you can ask......but you already know the answer sooooooooooo I don't know why you would ask. ;) None the less.............You never answered my question: Are you self taught? What denomination do you belong to?
  3. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Ummmm........in post #460 I said NO offense taken. Is that what you are referring to?????????????
  4. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Lol Johann..........you have INTERPRETED "what stands written" OR you have accepted another man's interpretation. Be careful: 2 Peter 3:16 How do you interpret 2 Thessalonians 2:15?
  5. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Lol.....That's not what we are discussing sooooooooo....
  6. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    You can show MANY Scriptures that back up your opinion but sadly you didn't show MANY Scriptures to back up your opinion.......:contemplate: According to Jesus if I endure to the end I will be saved (Matthew 24). Will you endure to the end Johann? Or will you fall away (Luke 8:13)? I provided...
  7. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Oh goodness Johann......Time for a religious history lesson! Bar mitzvah and baptism have NOTHING in common. Baptism and circumcision are in common. I will show you the errors of your way WITH SOURCES of which you refuse to provide which means you are just giving your opinion. It's not your...
  8. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    No offense taken. For it is not MY dogma/tradition that I adhere to. I adhere to the 2,000 year dogma/traditions of The Church. Well, you didn't refute my point, you just said Jewish sources will back you up.....but you didn't provide those sources soooooooo you know what the next step is. Mary
  9. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Hi Johann, According to Scripture, there is no assurance of salvation. According to Jesus if I endure to the end I will be saved (Matthew 24). Will you endure to the end Johann? Or will you fall away (Luke 8:13)? Have your men assured you that you are saved? Curious Mary
  10. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Lol Johann.....I don't think you know the meaning of circular reasoning....but I get the gist of your rant. Are you suggesting that the word "children" in that passage does not at EVER mean infants? I am already one step ahead of you kiddo. Neuter diminutive of G3816; a childling (of either...
  11. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Lol....Dear Johann, "What stands written" requires interpretation. You have accepted the interpretation of men that lived 500 years ago (or less). I have accepted the interpretation of men that were students of the Apostles. There is no debate........students of the Apostles beat out 16th...
  12. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Huh???? I don't understand what you are saying?
  13. Marymog

    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    The cross is just a piece of wood. Wood is just wood....
  14. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Oh goodness Brakelite......There is more in Scripture about baptism than Romans 6. Stop cherry picking Scripture to support what your men have taught you. Show me from Acts 2 that we are instructed NOT to baptize children....it literally says the OPPOSITE of what your men have taught you. In...
  15. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Hello Johann, Show me from Scripture that entire families were NOT baptized in the water of baptism. You can't!!! Can you? Infants are not part of families....are they Johann??????????????? you crack me up.......... Show me in Scripture where Jesus said that the promise of salvation is for...
  16. Marymog

    Tradition Versus Scripture

    Ok Johann..............instead of interjecting with non sensical statements and your OPINION..........How about if you back up your words with facts? Good luck with that kiddo......... The FACT is...as I pointed out...is that infant baptism started LONG before 450AD............refute that or...
  17. Marymog

    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    Your men have lied to you, or you are deceiving yourself: Mark 12:17 Water is not just water. Scripture makes it clear that baptism (with water) now saves you. Scripture makes it clear that we are to follow Jesus example. He was baptized (with water) and we are to be baptized with water if we...
  18. Marymog

    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    "Whether the quote was genuine (a lie) or not"............it should still be addressed by Marymog??? Oh goodness...........hmmx1:
  19. Marymog

    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    When was I not honest? Please reply with FACTS or publicly apologize for your public lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. Marymog

    Was Jesus Heretical? - Why did they crucify Him?

    Ok...so you thought you did. What "quote" are you talking about? Also, how are we off topic? The "topic" is (0f which you brought up) Does the Church adhere to Scripture or was something lost 1,700 years ago. YOU began that topic in post #212. Would you like to address that topic OR off the...