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No, if that were your point, you wouldn't have kept using an already-answered reply, you would've interacted with the replies already supplied. 1. You're not addressing the point I made. I said you were mixing apples and oranges of the Law's ministry. You are confusing things. 2. I never said...

Nope. The "shrinking back" the word would refer to would be the same as mentioned in Hebrews 10:38 and 1 Jn 2:28. Otherwise, it's figuratively used to refer to "hesitation"--hence basic unanimity of translating it "doubt" across versions. I haven't read a translation that translates it as you...

The condemnation was bc of slavery to sin, but they're freed from slavery to Sin in Christ (Ro 8:2) so that IF they walk after the Spirit they fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law (Ro 8:4), and live, but IF they walk after the flesh they will die (Ro 8:12,13). This is the same principle...

Yet the Christian who sins is condemned. This must mean he's not abiding "in Christ". I've cited many verses that teach that reality. You're free to respond to those whenever you please.

You're not addressing the issue. Not interested in games.

You have no answer: sounds good. 1 John 2:28 debunks the idea that all Christians remain in Christ. 1 John 3:23,24 says how to remain. 1 John 5:21 says idols draw the immature away from Christ. Galatians 1:6 says the believers were deserting God. Galatians 5:3 says they were severed from...

Nope, there's also "a righteousness of my own from the Law". Assuming they're remaining in Christ--which, denying it is a possibility they may not remain, is begging the question. That's already been debunked by Romans 14:23.

1. They are "destroyed" and "condemned". You say, "It's OK, because it's not real". 2. No, they are condemned by God, because "to the one who believes something is unclean for him IT IS UNCLEAN", so that person is actually condemned, because he isn't doing what he fully believes is correct, and...

There are no unbelievers in view, with respect to instructions he's giving on how Christians are to be living, in Romans 14. The one who does what he does not believe is not in faith, thus he is condemned. It's really interesting to see the wheels fall off the OSASer's buses when they actually...

You're bringing up the issue of "works". When Paul reprimands the Galatians for trying to be justified by the works of the Law, his solution to their error is NOT "faith in Christ alone"; he delivers them from the Law over to doing good works by faith, "faith working through love", "through...

So, why is the Christian "condemned"? By your own logic, he's not abiding in Christ. Yet the Christian is "condemned". "It's just eating--it's not a big deal." What was it that Adam did to plunge the world into damnation? No, the context is that the rule Christians live by is "let every man...

Romans 14:23 says the Christian who sins is "condemned", so they must not be abiding in Christ, as I've argued.

I hoped to interact with dissenters, but is there anyone who agrees?

Isn't it true that the reason there is no condemnation for those in Christ is because they are not sinning? 1 John 3 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. In Romans 8:1, Paul had just described the plight of a Jew under the Law--ie, being mastered...

I just want to clarify: just because I think (and, I think, can prove--and have proven) you all have an inaccurate explanation of the Gospel, that does not mean I also think you all are condemned or cut off from God. Far from it. Your own personal knowledge of God would refute me if I said that...

I said nothing that you didn't say about me--you said I was uninformed about "the whole counsel of God", and I said the same of you and yours, except I have been furnishing proof.

Right. That's why I raise the topics and points I do--you guys ignore certain things.

Romans 8:12,13 We are indebted to God--if we walk after the flesh, we will die, but if by the Spirit we mortify the deeds of the flesh we will live. Salvation is a gift, it just doesn't mean what you think it means, if we read 1 Corinthians 10--you're adding to and subtracting from its definition.

You don't. You think anything anyone does, any "activity", is a "work". That's not the testimony of Scripture. When, for instance, Paul reprimands the Galatians (his reprimanding them to bring them back into the faith, again, disproves your idea that Christians automatically live as God...

Well, not that it's that important, but there is speculation that this is an inference that Paul believes that part of Gentile believers being grafted in to Israel includes this aspect of inheriting the fathers--eg, Abraham is their father. Also, whether Paul is addressing Jewish believers or...