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It would be great, if it was complete. Showing a person agape love with no judgement Is not a Christian only commandment. AND there are multiple other things Scripture says that one must do to be saved. Dont cherry pick His words to fit your belief.

And how did they handle their disagreements Grailhunter? Think about it….

Faith is the starting point. Scripture says A LOT more than that……

You crack me up….

I found your essay: 1. Does the church have ministers who can forgive sins in the name of Jesus (John 20:21-23)? 2. Does the church have a healing rite for the dying that forgives the sins of the person who is dying (James 5:14-15)? 3. Does the church meet daily for the breaking of the bread...

Complete and provable lie but i have come to realize you are not interested in the truth

Unity under One Church with One doctrine: 20 “I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us,[a] so that the world may believe that you have...

Nope, that is not the “bottom line”. What your men have taught you is false. The bottom line is what Scripture says and it says that there is a “perfect church”. The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3:15)…..that sounds perfect to me. The Church makes the final decision...

Either one you choose Christophany. The passage I was referring to (1 Peter 3:21) speaks of water baptism. Sooooo lets start with that: Is water baptism salvific? Patient Mary

Not playing your game kiddo. Answer my question (which was first) and I will answer yours

Not true. If He was pleased by faith and faith alone Scripture would only say "have faith in me and you will be saved". That would make for a VERY SHORT BIBLE. There are MANY MANY more passages that tells us what we MUST do to be saved. Keeping it real....Mary

You dodged the question. That question was based on what YOU said: What about these "truths": Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them.... the one who eats this bread will live forever Baptism.....now saves you, Are they salvific and how do you put them into practice?

Hmmm....So Scripture says baptism SAVES you....but baptism isn't salvific????????????? Abiding in Jesus and Jesus abiding IN us is not salvific?????? salvific defined: having the intent or power to save or redeem abiding defined: enduring

Well, I don't know what you mean by "all truth". I think we will agree that we will never know the truth of how the universe was created or atoms, protons etc. I think He meant the "truth" he was teaching us; His words are the Truth. Your "essentials list are pretty easy salvific doctrines for...

All very good truths Michiah...thank you. What about these "truths": Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them.... the one who eats this bread will live forever Baptism.....now saves you, Are they salvific and how do you put them into practice?

hey Christophany, How does your theory that Protestant denominations and The Catholic Church teach some truth and error square with what Jesus said in John 8:32? Do you have a list of "essential truths that are salvific in nature" of which "we must believe to be saved"? Thanks for...

That doesn't answer my original quesiton. So, based on your non-answer, I will ask again in a different way: Do you believe that the Waldenses was the remnant/minority/hidden church that Jesus started?

I apologize. You never called the church "invisible". What you said was the true church was a remnant (small), always in the minority (smallest part of a group), Hidden away (can't be found) in the wilderness. I interpreted that as being invisible, but you never said they were invisible.

I get the gist of what you are saying but even in the "biblical era" The Church had issues with false prophets and division when the Apostles were alive. That is the purpose of some of the letters in the NT, to address that division amongst the faithful. Around the year 107AD, just a few short...

Scripture was written TO all of us: Obey those who [a]rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you. That passage clearly states that you are to submit to a...