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  1. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Tom, You have misunderstood what I wrote. Perhaps I did not make that as clear as I should have. When I spoke of 'historical, contextual, grammatical interpretation of Scripture', I meant that when I am interpreting any Scripture I need to take into consideration the historical, contextual...
  2. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    I asked 4 questions of you in #128. Are you blind to seeing them in this reply? Or don't you read what I write in response to you?
  3. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Richard, It's too bad you don't live in a post-Christian society where Scripture is treated as garbage and discarded as mythology by those who are religionists. Then you might have a different view of Scripture and 1 Peter 3:15 (ESV). That's one of the reasons why historian, exegete and...
  4. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    This is a red herring of a reply as you did not answer the questions I asked of the RCC but gave your spin on what you wanted to say about other topics that were important to you. But you still avoided answering my questions.
  5. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, This is not only false, but it's a straw man fallacy. Oz
  6. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Tom, I thought that you knew more about the last 2,000 years of teaching on baptism. As for RCC and Orthodox teaching on baptism, that has not been my specialist area of interest. However, I know enough about the views of these denominations that I would not be pursuing their views on baptism...
  7. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, So, in your 62 years you have never come across one Gnostic. Could it be associated with your myopia? See Michael Horton's, 'The New Gnosticis: Is It The Age of the Spirit or The Spirit of the Age?' It could be closer than you think. Oz
  8. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    And is this Spirit-filled language?
  9. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, You can't admit you got it wrong when I provided you with a link to a Pentecostal-charismatic denomination that did not believe as you said. Then you launch into a red herring fallacy and an ad hominem fallacy. I took you off Ignore so that we might have a discussion, but with the...
  10. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Tom, I think you know more about this than you are telling me. Oz
  11. OzSpen

    How many Christians disobey this?

    Tom, In my view, they are complicit by their continuing to perform such remarriages. In my country, the problem seems to be related to the pastors being as theologically ignorant of this teaching as the people in the pew. In my cell group, there are 2 elderly (over 70) couple who were...
  12. OzSpen

    How many Christians disobey this?

    Jim, There are a lot of links here. You'll need to be more specific with a link for me to get the picture you are wanting me to see. Oz
  13. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, Vineyard Churches USA, a leading Pentecostal-charismatic denomination, in its Statement of Faith on the 'Ministry of the Holy Spirit', does not state it believes in tongues as the initial physical evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Oz
  14. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, This sarcasm is totally unnecessary and is not indicative of a godly response to me. Oz
  15. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, You stated: 'BTW, you forgot Foursquare and Church of God'. Don't you know the meaning of etc. when I wrote: 'Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada (PAOC), Assemblies of God (A/G), Apostolic Faith Mission South Africa, Elim churches, etc.'? Stan, you wrote: 'I tend to want to live in the...
  16. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Scalia, Last week I attended a funeral led by a Roman Catholic priest. The person who died was an evangelical Anglican whose Saviour was Jesus Christ. He had a long battle with cancer and the last 3 years of his life were in a RC nursing home. At the beginning of the service, the RC priest...
  17. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    No, Stan, it is NOT a consensus opinion. It is a Pentecostal opinion supported by the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada (PAOC), Assemblies of God (A/G), Apostolic Faith Mission South Africa, Elim churches, etc. There are major Christian denominations around the world who do not accept that...
  18. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, I have presented my evidence to refute your view of tongues as the initial physical evidence of the baptism with the Holy Spirit in, Tongues and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit. The evidence from Acts 2:4; Acts 10:44-46 and Acts 19:2-7 demonstrates the filling or baptism of the Holy...
  19. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Tom, You are engaging in historical theology with your examples. I was discussing how to interpret Scripture as 'historical, contextual, grammatical interpretation of Scripture'. While studying the history of the issue of baptism may be valuable for some, it leads to confusion for others. Take...
  20. OzSpen

    How many Christians disobey this?

    Tom, Those are the 2 passages and we know from the Mark 10 passage that if one divorces for illegitimate reasons, it is when one remarries that the person commits adultery. Part of the problem in my country is, The culture has dictated to the Christian church what the standard should be with...