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  1. OzSpen

    How many Christians disobey this?

    Tom, But there are a couple of situations where divorce is legitimate and would not involve one committing adultery if divorce happened. What 2 circumstances are they? Oz
  2. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Tom, That's why assertions made by you, Stan or me mean nothing. They have no meaning unless we demonstrate the biblical interpretation methods we are using to arrive at our conclusions. Could it be that neither you nor Stan is providing the evidence of how you arrived at your conclusion. 'The...
  3. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Tom, I am not convinced there is any other way to determine the correct view of, say, baptism than a historical, contextual, grammatical interpretation of Scripture. We use the same principles when reading a local newspaper or in conversation with people. The difficulty with OT and NT...
  4. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    So, only those with your Pentecostal understanding of the baptism with the Holy Spirit are able to know his word. That's what you've said here. I beg to differ - profoundly! One of the greatest biblical expositors of the 20th century who had a profound knowledge of the Word was the late D...
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    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, I expect that there could be people on this forum (and I'm one of them) who would not believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues. Your view is thus encouraging at least two types of Christians: Pentecostal and non-Pentecostal, but the...
  6. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Tom, John 16:13 (NIV) states, 'But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come'. Here is a problem you could face. The Holy Spirit's voice from Scripture can...
  7. OzSpen

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Stan, Are you saying that only those with a Pentecostal understanding of the baptism with the Holy Spirit can accurately interpret Scripture? You say the rest comes down to studying Scripture. Which of these 2 views is primary and which is secondary? Oz
  8. OzSpen

    Natural Theology?

    I wasn't addressing your issue but the capitalisation of the 'S' of the human spirit is an unusual move. Proper nouns are capitalised, and the 'spirit' of a human spirit is not a proper noun. Oz
  9. OzSpen

    Natural Theology?

    Stan, Is that absolute truth according to your definition? All of Scripture, that is from a foreign culture to us in the West, needs to be interpreted. Are we going to interpret the days of Genesis as St Augustine, one of the eminent early leaders of the church, did? St Augustine wrote in City...
  10. OzSpen

    Natural Theology?

    There's a fair bit of your own invention/imagination here, Stan, about Romans 1:18ff (ESV). 'Intuitive to the human Spirit' and you dare to spell it with a capital 'S'. Come on, Stan!! :wub:
  11. OzSpen

    Natural Theology?

    Stan, Actually, we don't need to know God personally to be able to study Him. We know that because God has told us so in Romans 1:20 (ESV), which states: Who are 'they'? Those who perform ungodly and unrighteous acts and suppress the truth (Rom 1:16 ESV). So, in natural revelation ('the...
  12. OzSpen

    Natural Theology?

    How do we see macro-evolution with populations?
  13. OzSpen

    Natural Theology?

    Since I live in a post-Christian, ungodly culture, I find that natural theology (as per Rom 1:18-32; Psalm 19) is an excellent way of building common ground with people who deny the existence of God. If people had to deal with more people in the non-Christian world in proclaiming the Gospel on...
  14. OzSpen

    Does the Church still possess miraculous gifts today?

    Jun, I find you to be barking up the wrong tree with Mark 16:17-18 because Mk 16:9-20 is not in some of the earliest manuscripts. You will never get me quoting from this passage (Mk 16:9-20) as contained in Scripture as it requires agreement with the ludicrous instruction, 'they will pick up...
  15. OzSpen

    Does the Church still possess miraculous gifts today?

    Jun, I do wish you would realise that the verse you quoted, Rev 22:18, was in the Book of Revelation, that was not yet in the canon of Scripture at the time John wrote. John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, wrote this book of prophecy (predominantly), so when he warns against adding...
  16. OzSpen

    Common ground

    I will give an amen to the canon in the autographa (original manuscripts). We do not have it, but we have a very good representation of it in English, but it's not the original language. I will not say Amen to the Apocrypha being in the autographa of the canon. Oz
  17. OzSpen

    Does the Church still possess miraculous gifts today?

    I do wish you would refer to some commentators who would give you an understanding of the Greek language of James 5:15 where it does not refer to the 'spiritually sick'. James 5:15 (NIV) states, 'And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he...
  18. OzSpen

    Is this coming to a school near you?

    Are you ready for this kind of indoctrination in your school? This happened in Canada: Lesbian Teacher: How I Convince Kids to Accept Gay ‘Marriage’, Starting at 4 Years Old. What do you plan to do as a church or as a Christian if this happens in a school your children attend? How will the...
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    Does the Church still possess miraculous gifts today?

    Yes, I am Spencer. That's where the Spen of OzSpen comes from.
  20. OzSpen

    Does the Church still possess miraculous gifts today?

    I have never ever heard of Curry Blake so I could not speak of his taking things too far. Only a Google search after you mentioned the name gave me information about him, but since I don't know the nature and content of his ministry I cannot comment. I'll leave that for others who are familiar...