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Give all the testimony you want about your journey David. None of that matters in regard to your lie. I provided you a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church that shows you what The Church teaches in regard to the matter. Based on your testimony of being raised a Catholic you should know...

Is a 5 year old "Heartfully MATURE" enough to accept Jesus? How about a 10 year old? How about a 15 year old or a 30 year old with the mental capacity of a 7 year old? What about all the adults who accepted Jesus when they were "heartfully mature" and then years later rejected Jesus? Were they...

Is that the only passage that talks about how to be saved? No, it is not.

And still no apology for your lie on what The Church teaches. It's pretty simple David. You lied about what The Church teaches. I am not saying or debating what your men have taught you about faith+works......I am asking you to just stop lying and apologize for that lie.

Faith without works is dead.

David, I am simply pointing out your LIE on what The Church teaches. You can quote Scripture all day long. It doesn't' change the fact that you are lying and have failed to apologize for it.

Nice. I see we agree: Faith without works is dead.

Where does Scripture say that one must immerse or can't sprinkle? What historical NT era documents show HOW Christians baptized? Where does Scripture say that one must be "consciously aware of what belief in Christ means" before they should be baptized? At what age is one "consciously aware of...

Stop pretending you want to have a productive conversation.......

As a former Catholic you have committed another lie. Here is what The Church teaches about faith+works: Catechism of the Catholic Church THAT is what The Church AND Scripture teaches. Stop lying. So I ask YOU, David: “What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not...

Hey David, I would like to address your 2 lies. Catholics, or any Christian that is accepts/given a Triune baptism with water, are born again when they are baptized. Catholicism is NOT a "'works' based salvation". It is a FAITH+WORKS salvation. Because, as I am sure you already know, faith...

Lol....i don't need to ponder your if YOU are teaching the Truth. I already know you are not. ;)

Lol....No, The Church didn't hate Wycliffe because he tried to get the bible into the hands of people. You should learn your own Christian history before commenting on it ;)

Hmmmm......:contemplate:

You make a good point as there possibly being only one temple cleansing so I digress. I have NEVER said that I, Marymog, am "the source of truth". I have made it VERY clear that The Church is the pillar of truth. You on the other hand have NOT made it clear where you get your truth from. It...

That still makes no sense Jim. First you said you read it then you said you skimmed it. It sounds like you made your mind before you "skimmed" it.....that's fine with me. I just noticed post #248! You make a good point and I digress. Respectfully........Mary

Ummmm, Enoch......The Church did 'clean up its act' AND mounted a counter-offensive against heretical teachings from people like Wycliffe. Are you not familiar with your own Christian history and The Council of Trent??????? :contemplate: Why should The Church bend to Wycliffe's demands? Why...

Lol....hold on. How can you know they are opinions if you DIDN'T read them??????????:Laughingoutloud: That makes no sense...........:contemplate:

a. The Catholic Church. b. Which church are you suggesting we take it to? Curious Mary

A) how do you know that what the CC teaches is not scriptural? Do YOU know the "spiritual truth" of Scripture and the men of the CC don't??? B) That is the problem. You DON'T have an answer, only false accusations that you have been unable to back up with facts. So, that is not MY problem, that...