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  1. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    Stan, I thought I'd give him some kind of response to try to awaken the ignorance, but it didn't work. Now it's back to the Ignore selection - sadly. I dislike doing this to people's responses, but sometimes it's necessary. Oz
  2. OzSpen

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Thanks, BA. Which team did you support in the Super Bowl? Oz
  3. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    Do you know the difference between narrative and poetry? What would a story be like if it were not for the content of the story? Who decides the nature of the story? Is it the author or do I, the reader, decide what the content means?
  4. OzSpen

    Is God male?

    The Barrd, 'God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth' (John 4:24 NIV). Where in Scripture does it state that a spirit has gender?
  5. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    That's not true, The Barrd. I've noticed him through the thread but he tends to not make coherent, sensible comments that deserve my response. Comments such as 'I doubt Jesus ever used words like exegis (sic)' (#337) indicate the extent of his understanding. I won't be paying any more attention...
  6. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    This is another false statement. I worship God and Him alone. However, I need many other things: I needed sight to be able to help my wife shop for the groceries this morning; I need to be literate in English to be able to read your trite response to me; I need to pass the Queensland driver's...
  7. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    That's a false accusation about me that I do not seek after God. Because my conclusions are different from yours does not mean I don't seek after God. I do seek after Him. If you continue with this kind of uninformed response, you'll join my Ignore list as well. Oz
  8. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    So does that mean you don't want to commend current Hebrew and Greek OT and NT teachers and translators?
  9. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    Jun2u, How would you ever have an English translation of the OT and NT without some with the knowledge of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek? You will never understand the grammar of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek by knowing the content of concordances, etc. Concordances are helpful, but to understand...
  10. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, Not a word about worship??? What does it mean to 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy'? :rolleyes: Do you know the meaning of 'holy'?
  11. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    Do you want me to exegete the meaning you stated here, or do you want me to superimpose my own meaning and make it eisegesis?
  12. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, The Barrd needs to look at Scripture the way she looks at the local newspaper - through exegetical eyes and reading grammar in context. If it's poetry, you interpret as poetry with lots of imagery. If it's narrative, interpret as literal meaning with normal grammar and cultural...
  13. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    mjr, Jesus also didn't give give me lessons in Greek grammar so that I can translate the NT from Greek to English. So is learning Greek grammar legitimate or not. Jesus didn't provide us with an exposition of the Trinity, calling it the Trinity. Your argument that Jesus didn't use the word...
  14. OzSpen

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    BA, I also will be interested in the response as the theme of James 2 is on partiality/discrimination. Where I'll preach this is a super-conservative congregational, only singing old hymns with piano, organ and bass guitar/string bass. It's the 4 hymn service that goes according to the same...
  15. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, That's a red herring logical fallacy because you didn't deal with the issues I raised with you re your eisegesis and views on the authority of Scripture. Giving me poetry is not dealing with what I wrote. My delightful wife has just called for breakfast. I better be an obedient...
  16. OzSpen

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Sounds good, BA. Last night I finished preparing a sermon on James 2:8-9 (NIV) in which I used this as an illustration of how some churches in Australia are engaging with out culture in relation to asylum seekers being offered sanctuary in churches. See the article by Adam Gartrell, The Sydney...
  17. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, There is not any such phrase in the Bible that OT or NT writers write 'under the auspices of God'. That prepositional phrase is nowhere to be found in the Bible, in my understanding. This we do know that Scripture uses statements such as 'breathed out by God' (2 Tim 3:16 ESV), 'by...
  18. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, Writers, story tellers and poets who deal with the Scriptures are to be accurate interpreters of God's Word. That involves exegesis (getting the meaning out of a text) and not eisegesis (putting a meaning into a text). An exposition is an explanation of the exegesis. So, M'am, every...
  19. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd's creative imagination is not a good way to do exegesis and exposition of Scripture.
  20. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, I'm pleased with your clarification about a couple of points in your last post regarding your view of Scripture, but I'm still left with a few questions. You wrote: 1. From where do you get your theology that Moses wrote 'under the auspices of God'? You make this kind of assertion...