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  1. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, This may seem radical to you, but there is a MIGHTY BIG REASON why the Apostles would change worhipping from the Saturday Sabbath to Sunday, the first day of the week (Acts 20:7), the Lord's Day. One event in human history changed this. According to the Gospels, Jesus was raised...
  2. OzSpen

    WHY WHINE ABOUT WINE, or BE a BEAR ABOUT BEER?

    Why don't you answer my questions instead of giving me a red herring. What's a red herring? It's exactly what you did. You did not deal with the subject I raised (the questions I asked) but you responded in a way that you thought looked like my subject. But, in fact, you abandoned the subject I...
  3. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, None of the Scriptures you provided gave evidence that 'I'm asking you to believe what the scriptures are plainly telling us. Paul worshiped on the Sabbath, just as he had done all of his life'. No Scripture you quoted states that Paul worshipped on the Sabbath. But Acts 20:7...
  4. OzSpen

    Apologetics of low interest in churches

    Tom, When I joined that other forum in 2005, I was attending a Baptist church. I'm ordained with the Christian & Missionary Alliance, which is a Baptistic denomination. I currently attend an evangelical Presbyterian church, which has the best teaching (expository preaching) in my region, but I...
  5. OzSpen

    The whole of the NT explains how salvation is obtained

    That is not the title of the thread you started here. it is: 'The whole of the NT explains how salvation is obtained'. In fact, when I responded to you in #3 to show that this is an extreme statement that is untrue, you didn't even bother to respond. I wonder why? Why don't you start another...
  6. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, I also am a Berean (as in Acts 17:11 ESV) and I found that these 3 eminent evangelical commentators confirmed what I had concluded after reading and exegeting the Scriptures myself. You don't want me to listen to these eminent commentators, but you want me to read and listen to your...
  7. OzSpen

    The whole of the NT explains how salvation is obtained

    Zachary, I found you posted this same OP with the same title on another forum at: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-whole-of-the-nt-explains-how-salvation-is-obtained.7930447/. You posted it on this other forum 3 days before you posted it here. What is the point you are trying to...
  8. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, This is what happens when you don't do your homework about the content of Acts 20:7. In his Commentary on the Book of Acts, leading evangelical commentator, F F Bruce, wrote: Richard Lenski in his commentary wrote concerning Acts 20:7, Simon Kistemaker's commentary further affirms...
  9. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    I think it's time you read a commentary or two about the meaning of what happened according to Acts 20:7 (NIV). I gave you a stack to work on because I provided you with a link to the article in the Brisbane Times. Don't you bother to read the links I give? No game, Ma'am! We are trying to...
  10. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    Now tell me your definition of narrative based on the example I gave you from the Brisbane Times today.
  11. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, On which day of the week did the believers meet to break bread according to Acts 20:7 (NIV)?
  12. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    You give me another red herring fallacy by not addressing what I asked you to give. I provided you with a quote from today's Brisbane Times and asked you to tell me the difference between narrative and poetry with this quote (see #384). I asked: Please tell me what kind of style this item from...
  13. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, That's a red herring fallacy. I didn't ask for examples of those three; I asked for definitions of those three. Why are you off and running with what you want to do and not respond to what I asked of you? This makes conversation impossible when you engage in use of a logical...
  14. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    The Barrd, Of course Paul would go to the synagogue to reason with people on the Sabbath. He was a converted Jew and knew that was where he would find the Jews to preach the Gospel to them. It's too bad you didn't read further to Acts 20:7 (NIV), 'On the first day of the week we came together...
  15. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    Please provide me with definitions of: Narrative Poetry, and Narrative poetry I was not asking about narrative poetry but about the difference between narrative and poetry. Narrative poetry tells a story but it is quite different from the meaning of narrative. Please tell me what kind of style...
  16. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    :rolleyes: :huh:
  17. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    Gleason Archer was a superb OT scholar. He spoke 30 oriental languages. The Lord took him home on April 27, 2004. Here are some 'Memorials' to him at his funeral. In addition to being a supreme defender of inerrancy, he did not accept the 6 days of creation as 24-hour periods, as some...
  18. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    However, when did NT Christians meet for public worship? See, 'How to honor the Sabbaths'. See also, 21 reasons why the first day of the week, Sunday is important to Christians.
  19. OzSpen

    WHY WHINE ABOUT WINE, or BE a BEAR ABOUT BEER?

    The Barrd, Have you defined the meaning of 'free' yet? Definitions are needed because if 'free' means choice, then I am: Free to choose to shoot up on heroin; I am free to choose to smoke a bong of marijuana: I can choose to drive recklessly and endanger people; I can choose to order food and...
  20. OzSpen

    Headship, Submission and Women in Ministry

    There's hope for some of us in our 60s mate! :mellow: Why not older? I have friends in their 70s and 80s who would make excellent members of this CyB.