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Renewing of the mind...hmm. I don't think people understand that either. What it doesn't mean is becoming religious by putting on a Christian facade. No, it's about the way the kingdom works. We can only renew our minds once we have experienced Zion or else listen to those who have. Everything...

We are sanctified...or being sanctified ...as we walk in His perfect grace. So yes it is present tense for those who abide IN Christ. We partake of HIS holiness IN Him. In Him is no sin. That's what I've been trying to get across. We are not made perfect in eternity...no...it is now. Just men...

It is a gift from heaven once God receives and accepts our sacrifice. Think Abel or Enoch. The faith chapter (Heb. 11) mentions Enoch and how he pleased God...and was translated to be with Him. The same thing takes place (spiritually) when we walk in the Spirit...we are raptured (harpazo) to be...

Such confusion. All of the things listed as holiness are in fact righteousness. No one grows into crucifixion nor holiness. We become automatic partakers of HIS holiness as we abide in Him. We can't half-abide or be half-crucified. We LEARN righteousness...but we experience holiness as a gift...

Again that is righteousness...not holiness. The righteous don't know they're righteous....they only se what they lack. The holy know that it isn't them walking in some lesser place...but the gift of grace that makes them walk as Jesus walked. No one is going to confuse that with a wasted human...

To be honest we must do the exact opposite. We must assume we are NOT living from the inner man but from the outer man. Then, it is possible to actually put off the outer man. So we tend to think backwards. Only as we repent from our present course can we turn to Christ with our hearts and be...

Again..."as many of us as" means "whoever has." Whoever has is NOT a generalized religious covering for all who claim to be Christians. This passage was written 2,000 years ago when SOME of the believers indeed experienced the higher walk. Even then, not everyone had or would. Reading skills...

No, we are each baptized in water in Jesus name. To be baptized into Christ personally we need an Acts experience of entering into Christ...personally. Peter and John were summoned from Jerusalem to go down to Samaria to lay hands on the new converts who were baptized in Jesus name only...but...

Seeing beyond what eyes can see....into the eternal reality. And BEING in a place where there is perfect peace, love, and the power over the flesh.

The Bible is more subtle than that. We can be in Christ without abiding in Christ. Otherwise Jesus would not have to spit out the Laodiceans from His mouth. I have shown this before on a number of occasions..that we can be in Christ and NOT bear eternal fruit. To do so requires the further step...

Yes...but a crown for having walked like every other person? Only one wins the prize....means that very few will walk at the LEVEL that is the high calling and penetrate into the kingdom realm to abide in Christ in a personal way. Very few are even in the race. The prize should not be confused...

1. Zion is meant to walk in right now. The downgrading of Christianity to just a world religion has seen the fall of the saints...looking only towards a "Valhalla" type of afterlife. Paganism has mixed into the gospel and affected how we read the bible. An afterlife is NOT the victory over the...

I hear what you are saying although this is not accurate. We are called to walk with the Lord in Zion....which is an ongoing walk in the Spirit. The third heaven is for a temporary visit to the throne room of God. The throne room of God is for He that is holy holy holy. The 3 heavens are the...

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We pay the price to get what He paid for. That price is everything WE have to get everything HE has. The cross is not just about Jesus. Paul said "I glory in the cross". Did Paul glory in the death of Jesus? Of course not! He gloried in the power of the cross on himself that liberates his inner...

You are stuck between testaments in your understanding. First comes the physical, then the spiritual. You have fully misunderstood the scale of the calling that is in Christ. (and pushed into an afterlife) Also, I am a Binatarian...like the early Christians. :) The Trinity idea denies the power...

Hey Lizbeth! :) Good post. The extra oil is the full measure of grace that must be purchased at the throne of grace. being born again is only a sample...or an aravon...downpayment...given to us in order to sample what costs us EVERYTHING to have. Think the parable of the pearl or the field. :)

What you are missing here is the scale of the calling of God. Does your church look like what we read in Acts 2? How many believers do you know who are... 1. walking as Jesus walked, holy and without sin? 2. killed for the Lord's sake? and... 3. What have you seen of Zion where God dwells...

You argue for arguments sake without any truth attached. Many are called but few are chosen. The calling is now not later. You can't post verses because your ideas are your own...and you are simply flooding these pages with nonsense. That's why you have been on ignore. If you want to do more...

This is ridiculous. We are to make our calling and election sure...that doesn't mean we are to commit suicide. A common error in todays' religious community is to push everything into an "afterlife". We see this with pagan religions with the idea of a "Valhalla" afterlife after living the way...