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I don't think you follow the grammar closely enough--but again I want this part of the conversation to come to an end. We are beating a dead horse. You have made your mind up. Good. Stay that way. I'm not interested in exerting any more effort.

Yep. That's basically my argument. LOL

No, I think because I said I believe there are two Israels (and, actually, Christian apologists cannot win arguments against Jews on Isaiah 53 without that concept), you thought that I was saying the Church took the place of Israel and that God was done with Israel.

I'm not sure how it's going to work out, but the mainstream reading of Romans 11, and what seems reasonable, is that the Jews will once again be God's people/married to God, which actually goes back to Hosea 1.

Again, for you, the language of Christ being husband, and the Church being his bone and flesh, his wife (as husbands are to consider their wives their own bodies--"no one hated his own body"), is all just a "coincidence"--nonsense, of course. Anyway, you're not going to come around to the...

No, you're attacking a strawman. I guess you've been in this discussion so many times before that you assume things. I never said the Church (which includes lots of believing Jews) was Israel--Romans 11 refers to unbelieving Israel being "blinded", so why would I want the Church to be that...

Also... Deuteronomy 32 21‘They have made Me jealous with what is not God; They have provoked Me to anger with their idols. So I will make them jealous with those who are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation, ...is emptied of its meaning. God's people had made Him...

It's not ambiguous. How about "You are children of the LORD your God" (Dt 14:1)? God related to His people, Israel, as Father. When they became "Not My People", they were no longer His children (Hos 1). Another way He related to His people, Israel, was Husband. So, does God just arbitrarily...

I say this because Paul talks about having been chosen in Christ before the foundation of the earth, etc, yet he also says that people can fall away (eg, Ro 11:17). which might mean that IF someone remains in Christ, through faith and then walking in faith (Christ is "God Is Our Righteousness"...

Yeah, I saw it. I thought it was answered handily.

Says who? For you, then, all this language about Christ being the husband, and the Church being Christ's bone and flesh (as Eve was Adam's flesh and bone--and don't forget Christ is the "Last Adam", which would make the Church the "Last Eve", and the Church is explicitly compared to Eve) is all...

Think of that phrase "God's faithfulness": untethered to a Word, without a referent, it is meaningless. "God's faithfulness"... to what? To do what? About what? I'm filling in the blank with doctrines from John's Gospel.

Yeah, I can't reconcile what Paul says with what Paul says, but I know Jesus says "You have been with Me since the beginning" (Jn 15:27)--trusting Him means I trust that, too. I don't have to wonder about it if He said it. It just is the case. If I'm His disciple, it's incumbent upon me to...

@Lambano Come to think of it, it was trust (and the activity of Grace through it) that conquered those fearful thoughts (and those fearful thoughts had always precipitated a fall into the sin)... and it's probably going to work the same with my fearful thoughts of going to hell, or sinning (eg...

I recognized that in the past, and use "Monergist" and "Synergist" now. Right, compatibilism. That has to be worked out though bc He sent angels to see if the outcry against Sodom was true. He had to learn. So, "predestination" (whatever it is) doesn't affect believers directly ? Except...

Yeah, and I don't detect that pride in John. But I mean REALLY set me free--I used to fear falling into it, but once He delivered me, I don't even have a single THOUGHT of it! Lol

I gotta go-ta sleep! I'll regret it if I deny sleep biology thinking I'm spiritual. LOL

God set me free from porn more than a decade ago. Do you know how? Only by trust. No struggle. The fiery darts were extinguished by grace through faith. I think the more we trust God, the more He works in us. What do we "trust"? I'm satisfied, having seen the power in my life, with trusting John.

I've heard of that. Nevertheless, anyone who has met Christ knows their life was dramatically changed. They found that missing part of life they always thought had to exist.

You know it's valid if you know God, because knowing God is eternal life--and He changes your life, cleans your sin. What became of the ones who had invalid faith? 1. John 6, they saw the signs and tried to make Christ King by force--they didn't really believe in Christ, but thought Christ...