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  1. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Thou hast super abundant confidence! :wacko:
  2. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Do you know the meaning of "it's"?
  3. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    So the Merriam-Webster dictionary is wrong and you are correct. What arrogance!
  4. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    You are correct. I did get it around the wrong way. An IT cannot be lied to with the effect of lying being acknowledged. An IT cannot be grieved by others and it cannot acknowledge that grief. A person can. Which is how the person of the Holy Spirit can respond.
  5. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    1. Your fundamental error is understanding the nature of God, who is at the core of Christianity. The Trinitarian God, with Jesus as the God-man. is the one who is accepted as Saviour. You don't seem to get it that you can't believe in Jesus unless you understand which Jesus. Is he the...
  6. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    You and I are in agreement on this one. Does that mean you reject baptismal regeneration?
  7. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    The Merriam-Webster dictionary disagrees with you, with this definition of 'imply': 'to involve or indicate by inference, association, or necessary consequence rather than by direct statement <rights imply obligations>'. So this leading American dictionary indicates that to imply is to indicate...
  8. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    That's not an adequate answer. Please tell me of an impersonal IT that can grieve someone and lie about someone.
  9. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    That's your imposition on my post. It is NOT my position. To believe in the Trinitarian God of salvation and that belief is CORE Christianity. When it comes to false doctrine, I am hating NOBODY. I'm following what John told me to do in Scripture: I am being an obedient Christian when I test...
  10. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Wormwood, Can a person be a Christian and not be baptised? Oz
  11. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    ewq, Where have I stated or indicated on this Board that I hate my brother? Why are you making this false accusation against me? Oz
  12. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Thanks, mate! Our God is the Trinitarian Lord God Almighty. He is the God disclosed in creation and whose nature is revealed in Scripture. I think this discussion does raise some issues about what isn't being taught too often in churches Down Under (it also was my experience when living in...
  13. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Dost thou understandeth what thou writest?
  14. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    You happen to be in error. The meaning of 'infer' (dictionary.com) is: 3.to guess; speculate; surmise. 4. to hint; imply; suggest. According to the dictionary 'infer' and 'imply' are synonymous terms.
  15. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    You cannot grieve and lie to an IT. Please don't be so condescending as to refer to me as 'Sir'. That's insulting.
  16. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    That is your imposition. She said not a word about not understanding. She declared she is non-Trinitarian. If she is non-Trinitarian, her Messiah is not the same as the Messiah whom I worship. He is equally God with Father and Holy Spirit. He is fully God and fully man. A non-Trinitarian does...
  17. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    I'm sorry if I inferred anything to do with the time of Christ's second coming. I don't know the time of the 2nd eschaton; neither did Jesus when he was on earth. I agree that core beliefs should exclude any suggestion about the time of the 2nd coming as I don't know when it will happen. But I...
  18. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    When you said you don't believe eschatological issues should be 'core beliefs', I agreed, but took that to mean whether a person was amill, postmill, premill, pretrib, midtrib, posttrib. I don't think those should be 'core beliefs'. However, I do believe one of the core beliefs should affirm...
  19. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    ewq, The issue at stake is that a person, Joyful, did not state that she doesn't 'understand the Trinity'. That is your imposition. She said she was 'non-trin'. In other words, her belief is in a non-trinitarian god. That is, she is unitarian, Arian. She did not cast doubt on her not being able...
  20. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    You continue to impose your idiosyncratic understanding of personhood on Scripture. I provided abundance evidence that demonstrates the Holy Spirit is a person, but you won't acknowledge it. To the contrary, the Holy Spirit is not a spirit of a person (your view), but the Holy Spirit is a...