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You are a nasty man in your behaviour towards me.

Butch, This is what happens when you don't seem to understand the use of the aorist tense for 'gave' in Eph 4:11, 'It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers' (Eph 4: 11 NIV). The aorist is used for 'gave gifts to...

That's a red herring fallacy. You have not dealt with the exposition I presented. Why? Because you have stated on this forum that you don't accept this view of human beings having an unseen soul that lives beyond death. Mate, I've refuted your doctrine by presenting biblical evidence and then...

Your assertion proves zilch. Please provide the biblical evidence.

What is the nature of a human being? How many parts are there to a human being? Most Christians and many non-Christians admit that there is some immaterial part of a person that may be called “soul” or “spirit.” But as for agreement on what soul/spirit means, there is not much consensus. Here...

Are you saying that God the Father has a flesh and bones body?

Since you check out Paul, it's a shame you don't take more notice of what he teaches. What did he say was the purpose of the ministry gift of 'teachers'? According to Eph 4:12-14 (ESV), it was 'to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ, until we all...

Stan, Anti-Trinitarianism was one of the oldest heresies in the Christian church, Gnosticism being a wee bit older. The unitarianism of Arius and Arians led to the Council of Nicea to thrash out this heresy and lead to the statement of an orthodox faith in The Nicene Creed. In that other very...

Zeke25, Titus 2:7-8 (ESV) teaches us: 'Show yourself in all respects to be a model of good works, and in your teaching show integrity, dignity, and sound speech that cannot be condemned, so that an opponent may be put to shame, having nothing evil to say about us'. James 3:1-2 (ESV) reminds us...

Deborah, Thank you for putting this in such an easy to understand statement in your confirming God (I presume you refer to Father, Son & Holy Spirit) as a person. Oz

Thank you for your affirmation of sound doctrine, refutation of false doctrine, and leaving the final judgement with God Himself.

You seem to be on another planet. I wrote: 'Interpretation (hermeneutics) is what we do with a text or the words of a person. To understand the words of Jesus in the NT, we need to follow rules of interpretation' And that was your super spiritual explanation. I wish you luck with understanding...

It WAS a salvation issue - the nature of God. Non-Trinitarians have been regarded as promoting unorthodox doctrine since kingdom come. It is you who should get in line with biblical teaching on the nature of God who offers salvation.

DP, From your statement here, you seem to be making your own theology of the church: 'So it is with the churches, their theology is what they think, and they are correct about what they think, but the theology is of men, therefore incorrect'. Is this kind of theology from DP? The view, 'Look...

You have again invented your own theology: 'Body soul and spirit is (sic) what makes up a person'. These links provide evidence to refute your position and to demonstrate that the Holy Spirit is a person: 'Is the Holy Spirit a person?' 'Holy Spirit - Person or Force?' 'The Person of the Holy...

Please give examples. Your assertions are inadequate to establish validity.

Nice try!

Stan, Do you see what is happening in this discussion on this thread? 1. To understand who Jesus is relates to his nature and place in the Godhead. If we don't get this settled, we could end up with this understanding of Jesus: Is that who Jesus is, or is he the second person of the Trinity...

Does that mean that the Southern Baptists do not allow missionaries to raise their own finances by visiting churches? What are the means of garnering support for missions. I know that the Christian & Missionary Alliance has a Faith Promise system through its annual missionary conventions to...

So do you believe you need to do good works to become a Christian?