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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Yes, of course, only you understand. LOL. Could you be more arrogant if you tried? I don't think so. You think you know it all and you know nothing. How about instead of saying pointless things like this, instead share your understanding of what the times of the Gentiles is. And show that in...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    So what? That can be clearly seen by how Matthew recorded the questions. The disciples likely believed that Christ's second coming and the end of the age would coincide with the destruction of the temple buildings, but Jesus, of course, would have known better than that. And the Holy Spirit...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Using the term "rapture" incorrectly

    Was my question too difficult? I'm not making it complicated at all. Your doctrine is what is complicated with its 4 separate resurrection events. I think the passage is quite straightforward. Jesus said a singular time/hour is coming at which point all who are in the graves will be resurrected...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    You won't find any translations that word it that way. But, just go ahead and believe what you want to believe since that's obviously what you want to do.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    No, it refers to all of the people with faith that were previously mentioned, which included Enoch, and it says they all died. You are changing the text to fit your beliefs. Hebrews 11:13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    And that is because He told them that the physical city and temple would be destroyed, right? When He said "see these great buildings?" and proceeded to tell them that no stone would be left upon another (Matthew 24:1-2, Mark 13:1-2, Luke 21:6-7), He was talking about the temple buildings...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I clarified what I meant, so what's the problem? You shouldn't still be confused. What a colossal waste of time it is trying to discuss anything with you. We should just not attempt to do so. It never goes anywhere. I misspoke one time and now I'm on your level where you are unclear a majority...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    So, you acknowledge that the disciples were asking Him a question about the destruction of the physical temple buildings, but you think His answer had nothing to do with the destruction of the physical temple buildings?
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Using the term "rapture" incorrectly

    How do you interpret this passage... John 5:28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. You...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Tell me which early church fathers agreed with your interpretation of Matthew 24:15-22. I'm not aware of any. Tell me any respected Bible commentator from any time in history who has interpreted Matthew 24:15-22 the way you do.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    This is ancient text that we're talking about here. From almost 2,000 years ago. Why are you trying to think of it the way we think of modern armies? It's referring to multiple military camps or groups surrounding Jerusalem and that's exactly what happened around 70 AD.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    I completely disagree. By doing that, you end up labeling some people as preterists who are not preterists and futurists who are not futurists. To label me as a preterist would be like labeling someone who believes that Jesus fulfilled prophecies about His first coming a preterist. It's...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Do you think it is just a coincidence that earthly Jerusalem was surrounded by Roman armies just before 70 AD and then was destroyed and made desolate with "great distress in the land and wrath upon this people" occurring with many people being killed by the sword with the rest being taken...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Who in this thread is saying that? Jerusalem still has no temple and is still being trampled by Gentiles to this day. You are a full preterist, right?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Using scripture to interpret scripture, why wouldn't you think that Jesus was talking about returning after the tribulation of the times of the Gentiles? Matthew 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    So, seeing Jesus explicitly saying that the temple buildings standing at that time would be destroyed and then answering a question about the timing of that is a case of reading things into the Bible? You can't be serious. You are the one reading things INTO the Bible by trying to spiritualize a...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    A Biblical Lesson on Spiritual Discernment

    Then you are a DUCK as well since you also believe some Bible prophecy has been fulfilled. QUACK QUACK!
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    Why are you changing the text of Hebrews 11:13 to try to make it as if it doesn't say that all of those of faith previously mentioned, which included Enoch, all died? Do you think it's acceptable to twist God's word like that? It's not.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    What's absurd is your lack of communication skills. What is the point of talking about the order in which the text is written, as if there's anyone who can't see that? What matters is the chronological order of the events written about in the book. So, that's what I'm talking about since that is...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Using the term "rapture" incorrectly

    I think he believes in 3 future resurrections. One at the supposed pre-trib rapture, one when Jesus returns and one 1,000+ years later. Is there another one he believes in besides those? Edit: I see that the resurrection of the two witnesses is his fourth future resurrection. That's 3 too many...