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WPM and I are not preterists, so you are wasting your time with this nonsense. We are fully aware and do not deny the spiritual kingdom of God/Christ that was ushered in at Christ's first coming. Your attempt to lump us in with preterists instead of addressing what we actually believe is ridiculous.

Matthew 24:19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! This shows your utter LACK of spiritual discernment. This is not saying woe to children here, this is saying woe to women who are pregnant and woe to women who are nursing babies. But, you're...

You are diverting attention away from the fact that you have no explanation for what Jesus was talking about when saying that those in Judea would need to flee to the mountains and why it would be particularly difficult for nursing mothers and pregnant women and why He said to pray that their...

Or should we say spiritual obtuseness.

What in the world are you talking about here? You don't even understand what you're arguing against. That passage is not talking about the disciples of Christ not knowing the time of their visitation and no one is saying that. Jesus warned believers in Judea to flee to the mountains once they...

None of those passages mention a spiritual Judea! Stop twisting scripture to make it fit your doctrine! You have no shame! LOL. That wouldn't have helped anyone to avoid being destroyed in the city of Jerusalem in 70 AD. LOL again! If it was talking about God's kingdom, it would have said to...

Translation: You are not able to address what I said.

What is giving you the impression that he believes anyone will be changed to put on bodily immortality before the last trumpet sounds? I already told you that he believes the rapture occurs at the last trumpet and that he believes 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 happens at the same time as 1...

If you stop reading things into what I'm saying then maybe we'd be on the same page more often. So what? You do that, too. Whatever. We all have a framework for how we understand scripture as a whole. There's nothing wrong with that. We should have a framework that we use to help prevent...

You are the one who makes us laugh with your nonsense. There is no spiritual Judea. You are making that up. Never is Judea ever referenced in a spiritual sense anywhere in scripture.

This does not address what I said at all. When the disciples asked "When shall these things be"? what exactly do you think they were asking with that question? And what do you believe spawned that question?

That's a good point. At the same time, why does it matter when they were opened, right? What matters is when the events related to each seal actually occurred or will occur.

He equates the "trib" only with God's wrath, while everyone else understands it as relating to a time of severe deception, wickedness, and apostasy as well as increased persecution of believers. So, he causes confusion by defining terms differently than everyone else.

No one can argue that because Jesus said this... John 3:13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. Jesus would not have said this if Enoch and Elijah had entered heaven. Jesus was talking about the third heaven/paradise there...

Pre-tribs believe that passage you quoted refers to what will happen when the supposed pre-trib rapture occurs. So, they see that passage and 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 as occurring at the same time. But, then the question becomes...when do the so-called "trib saints" who get saved during the...

Right. Jesus said those in Judea would need to flee to the mountains. He wasn't talking about the disciples needing to flee.

Not sure what your point is here. There certainly were Christians in Judea around 70 AD and they fled to the mountains to avoid being killed, just as Jesus warned them to do. How do you interpret this passage... Matthew 22:2 “The kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who arranged a marriage...

It isn't, of course. Unless you just spiritualize the whole thing for no good reason. It happened exactly as Jesus prophesied in 70 AD. We should be celebrating the pinpoint accuracy of His prophecy, but instead some people claim it has not yet been fulfilled.

Why do you think that? The disciples asked Him when the temple buildings would be destroyed, so why do you think He would not have answered that question? Matthew 24:1 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. 2 And...

That's all he can do. He knows he has nothing to refute our arguments.