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Butch, At #53, I asked you, 'Please go back through your responses to me that I've labelled as red herring fallacies and see what you do'. You didn't do what I asked, so you gave me another red herring fallacy since you went on with your argumentation that did not deal with the 'red herrings'...

Butch5, Please go back through your responses to me that I've labelled as red herring fallacies and see what you do. For a description of a red herring fallacy, see HERE. I'm very happy to answer your questions, but not when you continue to use logical fallacies in your reasoning. Why? Their...

Of course I know what logical fallacies are. I've been calling you on your use of them. This is what happens when logical fallacies are used. They amount to fallacious reasoning, thus making logical discussion impossible.

Another red herring. Should I assume that you are not going to give up using red herring fallacies?

Since you didn't reply to the details of what I wrote, your response is a red herring fallacy.

pom, That is not the evidence that I find with a more comprehensive understanding of Scripture. John 14:12 (ESV) refutes this view. Oz

Hammer, Thank you for raising this issue of the 'initial evidence' doctrine of the baptism with the Holy Spirit. I used to believe this at one point but when I studied the Scriptures further, I came to reject it because I could not find it as generally supported in Scripture. I have written...

Alan, All of the Thiessen book is available online as a pdf document - free! I have found him concise and helpful. Stacked with Scripture to support his views that are based on Scripture. Oz

Thanks, Hammer, I've made a couple of additions that should help. But I did receive a couple notifications overnight, but, for example, I was not notified by email of your reply to me on this topic. Let's see how it goes. I'll let you know if it is not working and I'll seek your guidance on...

Butch, Seems like I'm wasting my time seeking your exegesis of I Cor 13:10 and in context for the meaning of 'teleios'. In fact, 'anyone can easily found out' the meaning of 'teleios' (your view) - and the parsing of 'teleion' (1 Cor 13:10) - are nonsense. Most Christians I know would not even...

Alan, Do you do much reading of systematic theology books? I have found them helpful in dealing with fundamental Bible doctrines. I've been particularly helped by Henry C. Thiessen, Lectures in Systematic Theology (Eerdmans) and Wayne Grudem, Systematic Theology (Zondervan) and his smaller...

There are threads to which I contribute for which I do not receive follow-up notification by email of those who post to the thread after my post. This has not happened previously but it's happening now. Take this example...

Alan, So where's the struggle in understanding that there is one substance, God Almighty, and there are three persons in the Godhead - Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Each of these persons has a separate function, but they are acting in conformity with the essence and 'rules' of the one God. Jesus...

Stegley, I find that what you have stated here contravenes these Scriptures: “This is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent” (John 17:3). “And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is...

To make your day, I thought I'd share this one: 'Shangrala's only in Australia'. Would you like to come Down Under for a visit to the Outback? Oz

Butch5, You wrote: 'The word that translated perfect means maturity'. I said that this was your assertion and I was accurate because you provided no exegesis of the word in that sentence. When Paul called the Corinthians (remember it's a church he's writing to), he called them 'carnal'. Does...

Does that include Antarctica, the Himalayas, and the Gobi Desert?

That may be so with China but not so in my country of Australia. USA has approx 318 million people in approximately the same area as Australia which has 23 million people. We have millions of hectares that are unpopulated and many people don't want to go to the outback to live. Unless the...

Wormwood, Who are you to say that the miracles taking place in Nigeria today do not have anything to do with spiritual maturity? You seem to be inferring that the Nigerian church is immature and that miracles are happening there because of Christian immaturity. Is that what you are affirming...

Alan, I prefer to use the term the 'essence' of God, essence having practically the same meaning as 'substance'. Henry Thiessen defines essence/substance as: To put it starkly, it is the 'stuff' of which God is made. However, 'subsistence' (dictionary.com) refers to the means of supporting...