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  1. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    There is a pride in Peter's confident assertions of his love for God (which ultimately led to failure and public humiliation), but a humility in Apostle John's reception of God's love for him ("the disciple Jesus loved").
  2. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    There is a reason John the Apostle (not me) did not say "love God"--because it is imperative that we love God, it is even more imperative that we receive God's love ("we love because He first loved us"), which is the monotheism of the obedience of faith ("little children" are led away from...
  3. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    @Philip James Some material shared here that you, being a Catholic, might appreciate: We're justified by righteousness--the righteousness of keeping the Law of Faith (Ro 3:27). Faith is counted as the man's righteousness--man having God's righteousness (Ro 3:21). (One of Jesus's Names is "God...
  4. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    The very same ones Paul said had believed Paul also said could be cut off for unbelief--even if your ridiculous error ("Paul writes theologically instructive letters to unbelievers!") were granted it would do nothing to help your view. The text is explicit: believers can fall into unbelief...
  5. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    I'm not sure what you mean by this.
  6. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    1. The text explicitly says those who had had faith could fall into unbelief. 2. The Jewish believers in the Roman Church had many objections to Paul's Gospel--Paul preempted (perhaps in part based on his own questions and/or his experience preaching to other Jews) and responded to them. Much...
  7. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Nope, they had believed ("you stand by faith"), yet could fall into unbelief ("you will be cut off"). Paul wrote the epistle to the Church in Rome (Ro 1:7). He doesn't write theological letters to unbelievers. Try again. The Jews were "cut off" for their unbelief. The Gentiles were "grafted in"...
  8. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    You all cannot prove your view from Scripture. That's what this discussion is showing.
  9. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    The ones he is addressing, however you prefer to refer to them, had already believed but could afterward be cut off. Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith... to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; for...
  10. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    OK We see it differently. The readers will decide who has put forth a more faithful and exegesis of the text.
  11. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Not sure how anyone could ever reach such a conclusion when reading the text. Romans 11 13I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14in the hope that I may provoke my own people to jealousy and save some of them. Paul is referring to...
  12. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    The Spirit is in Christ. Christ is called the Vine. We receive the substance in the Vine, the Spirit that is only in Christ, if we abide in Him by obeying His commands (1 Jn 3:23,24). The Gentiles in Ro 11 "stand by faith" (v20), so, yes, they have faith. You can bear fruit only if you abide...
  13. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Jesus is the Vine, we are the branches. Branches that abide in the Vine are supplied with the substance that is in the Vine, and are able thereby to bear fruit; branches that do not abide are not supplied with the substance that is in the Vine, and are incapable of bearing fruit. Branches that...
  14. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    They had already believed the Gospel and received the Spirit (3:1-3)--after believing and receiving the Spirit, they were accounted as having "ran [the race of faith] well" but then were "hindered" (5:7), thus were "severed from Christ" (5:4) and were "deserting God" (1:6). You can't desert...
  15. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Yup, whoever has the Son has the life, which is only in the Son. When have I ever denied this?
  16. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    To you, then, being severed from Christ and thrown in the fire is not a salvific issue. OK. I'm sure any reasonable reader can be trusted to see through such nonsense. 1. Mt 7 is specifically about false prophets, but not all sinning Christians actually are false prophets, so the statement to...
  17. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Nope, Paul's objection is to them being under the Law (Gal 4:21), and his solution is not "Christ alone", it's "serve one another through love".
  18. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Nope, it says "is coming to Me"--ongoing present tense action--which just gets you back to square one: abiding is necessary for eternal life.
  19. GracePeace

    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    You have no answer for the Scripture, so you resort to ad hominem. That's what's "sad".