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Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. Whoever teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that is in accordance with godliness, 4 is conceited, understanding nothing, and has a morbid craving for...

Thanks Johann, You are right. We are instructed to "reprove gently". I do not feel you are butting in. Here is my edited version to @ScottA : How was there a 'breaking of succession of authority among men' when the Apostles LITERALLY replaced Judas (a man) with another man (Matthias)? And...

So Ronald, your men have taught you that Paul was instructing the flock to hold fast to the already written AND future writings/letters that would eventually become part of our bible known as the NT? Well, that is an interesting theory HOWEVER did you know that Christians at the time and for...

Well, that's what you say because it fits your bias. Others disagree with you: ESV So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter. Berean Study Bible Therefore, brothers, stand firm and cling to the traditions we...

Thanks Scott. I don't feel you are "butting in". I appreciate everyone's opinion. You present an interesting theory. How was there a 'breaking of succession of authority among men' when the Apostles LITERALLY replaced Judas (a man) with another man (Matthias)? And when the Apostles voted for a...

Hmmmm....so according to what your men have taught you Jesus condemned man made tradition even though Scripture says stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle. Once again, what your men have taught you is opposite of what Scripture says....:(

Thanks Robert for your opinion. I will stick with Scripture which says opposite of what you have 'proven to yourself': Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, Keep watch over yourselves and over all the flock...

I don't understand your question. It is not a matter of what I believe but a matter of what he actually wrote: First Clement: Clement of Rome (earlychristianwritings.com)

Hey tigger, Not sure why it is so important to you that Clement would need to comment on the Trinity for you to accept the Trinity doctrine of Christianity but here is what he said that alludes to it: Why is it that you harbor strife, bad temper, dissention, schism, and quarreling? Do we not...

Hmmmm....the majority belong to His adversary? That means that the majority of Christians have not been set free and don't know the truth (John 8:32).....only those that believe what you believe know the truth....which is the minority. You make it sound like God has lost and the adversary has won.

Impressive post. From where did you learn this? Respectfully, Mary

Right...you and your men are not confused but the majority of Christianity is? Everyone else got it wrong but your men got it right? Hmmmm.....

Hmmmm....you don't like the ECF's. How about the Apostolic Fathers? Men who were students of the Apostles. Did they deviate from what Scripture taught? The writings of Clement of Rome, an Apostolic Father, were considered Scripture at one time. Would you accept what he wrote OR do you feel he...

Yup, definitely bizarre. According to your theory the men who were students of the Apostles were not the "men to teach His word to mankind". Your theory suggest that the men who lived hundreds or thousands of years later are the men of "who and when". Or, YOU are the man since YOU have studied...

Are you, or the denomination you belong to, one of "God's people" who are "being regathered in the prophecy of Isaiah"?

Lol...Jane....You crack me up. I know that you know that you and your ilk are in the EXTREME minority on this matter. It is not only the Catholic Church that teaches the Trinity doctrine. ALL major denominations teach it. So for you to exclusively point out "the Catholic Church" is dishonest and...

That is what you have been taught (or taught yourself) because, as stated previously, you IGNORE the passages that don't fit your theory and only read passages that fit your theory. Mary

Lol.....OK. Thank you.

Thanks Robert. That is a fascinating interpretation of Scripture I don't recall ever hearing before. So let me see if I understand you correctly: You have been taught that the great apostasy written about in Scripture occurred before all of NT Scripture had even been written or lived out by the...

Yes, I do understand that. What I think you don't understand is that the "anti-trinitarian" teaching was deemed heretical by The Church. There were a few great minds in The Church that accepted it but the majority DID NOT. That is why it lost out to the Trinity teaching. The word "Trinity" did...