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I apologize. When we were talking about the language changing I didn't think we were talking about the dialect changing. I thought we were talking about the linguistics. None the less, Jesus made it clear that the Holy Spirit was it's own personage.

If "the Bible identifies the faith beyond any doubt" and it is "rather easy to see" then why are there, as you said, "thousands of sects teaching their own doctrine"? Can you see how your own theory contradicted itself in just a few short sentences? Furthermore, you are right when Jesus said...

Well Robert, now I have got a tough decision to make. Should I believe YOU or Scripture? Scripture literally says And baptism, which this prefigured, now saves you! We must obey Christ and follow in his footsteps to be saved. He was baptized and instructed us to baptize. Soooooo if I disobey...

Thank you Jane for your well thought out and articulate response. I won't belabor your points.....very much! All I can say is that the language didn't change as you allege. I think we can safely assume that the writers of the NT letters quoted Jesus word for word and it was Jesus very clear...

What is the difference between a Nerd and a Troll. Trolls were once Nerds too before they went over to the Dork side.

How many trolls does it take to change a light bulb? None; Trolls never see the light anyway.

Why couldn't the troll catch any fish? Because other people took their bait.

Where does a communist troll work? The Gremlin

How does Moses troll Jesus? He parts the water that Jesus is trying to walk on

How do you stop a troll? Take away its internet access.

Three responses/posts on this thread and ALL of them meet the description of a Internat Troll.......CONGRATULATIONS...You did it AGAIN!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Notice the difference between your posts and everyone else's kiddo? @Teller welcome to this site. The Church, to the best of my...

Hi, You say that you have hope there is a God but you don't have knowledge that there is a God. What would it take to convince you, or give you the knowledge, that there is a God? A miraculous event that can't be explained by science? Talk to Him in the way Moses did? Fill in the blank: I...

Thank you. I wasn't aware of those. I hope @Aunty Jane will take those passages into consideration also. Respectfully, Mary

Thanks PinSeeker, I said "in general" that is what they believed because I can't find any hard evidence in the OT that they considered the Holy Spirit as it's own separate entity. As stated in my post there is hard evidence in the NT. What I did find in my research that there are variations of...

Hmmmm....If getting baptized with water is only "symbolic" then why do it? How does symbol "wash away your sins" (Acts 22:16)? 1 Peter 3:21 says “baptism . . . now saves you.” How does a symbol save you Robert? Curious Mary

Thanks Jane for that well thought out and articulate defense of 'how the Bible instructs you'. In general you are right that in the OT the Spirit was not "seen as a person or a deity". They saw the Spirit as a quality belonging to God or one of his attributes. Genesis 1:2 "a wind from God...

Hi Robert, So I believe you are saying that we make the interpretation for ourselves. If that interpretation, used by free will, is obviously wrong then they will not receive salvation. HOWEVER, there have been some (prophets under the law) that thru God the Truth has been revealed to them...

Oh.....I see what you are saying now. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to guide all of us into all Truth and there are men on this earth who are teaching/know the Truth but SOME Christians that hear that Truth are over-riding the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and rejecting that Truth!!! And just...

It was a mistake for you to watch how Jesus suffered for you? Did the Apostles make a mistake when they wrote down in words for you to read how Jesus suffered for you? curious Mary

Sooooo to show true love I SHOULDN'T see what He did for me? I should only read about it? Interesting...Where does the bible say that? @BarnyFife saw an image on video of Jesus crucified. Shame on you B5.....You did what God forbade you to do!!:(