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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You said "In genesis, the purpose of the flood was to wipe out humanity. Jesus is not “specifically pointing that out”. Jesus specifically pointed out that the flood "took them all away", so how is He not specifically pointing that out? He did. Nowhere does it say that literally all of the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I see a problem with your view. If the white robes represent the receiving of the gift of the Holy Spirit, then Old Testament saints would have received the permanent gift of the Holy Spirit on the day when Jesus died, which is when He told the thief on the cross that he would be with Him in...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Right. He has a lot of trouble keeping things straight. But, what he won't acknowledge is that Revelation 2:22 talks about great tribulation in terms of God's wrath coming against the false prophetess Jezebel and anyone else who was influenced by her to do things like commit sexual immortality...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Did you even read the verse? It's not talking about persecution against the church, it's talking about God's punishment against the unrepentant. Just read the verse for yourself in context and see. Revelation 2:20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    The only thing he can say is what he has been saying today. Just making false accusations towards post-tribs and failing to do the thing he falsely accuses post-tribs of, which is addressing the scriptures. He doesn't address the scriptures at all. He gives chapters and verses of some scriptures...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    4. Revelation: Christ the Judge.

    Why do you ignore most of that verse? Heb_2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. All current things are under Him, but not all future...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Right. He does all this whining about people supposedly not being willing to address his arguments, but as soon as someone challenges him to a debate, he runs away.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Your arguments have been addressed many times by post-tribbers on this forum and you know it, so why act otherwise? WPM is offering to debate you on all of those scriptures you're referencing (while you didn't exegete any of them). So, if you want to be taken seriously, you will accept his offer.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. Mark 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    So, you admit making things personal, but you give yourself an excuse for it. Somehow, it's only wrong if others get personal, but it's perfectly fine when you do it. LOL! LOL! Says the baby whose little feelings get hurt constantly, as evidenced by all the whining you're doing in all of your...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Not sure who you're talking about here, but give us a quote where someone says they are offended by God's word. So Christian of you to lie about someone supposedly being offended by God's word.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Why do you lie? Several of us have refuted your false beliefs with scripture from the Bible. It's so ironic that you talk about others being dishonest when you are the most dishonest person on this entire forum.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Exactly. Everything he says about others applies to himself moreso than anyone else. He has no self awareness.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You mean after you attacked him personally by falsely accusing him of not being willing to look at certain verses, which is a lie. We all look at all of the relevant verses, but we don't all interpret them the same. I can't even recall how many passages I exegeted in responses to your posts in...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Let's assume that when Jesus talked about one being taken and one left that the ones taken refer to those who will be taken up to meet Christ in the air when He comes from heaven (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17). What does Jesus say happens to those who are left? Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Why are you taking "the new man" description literally, as if that label has anything to do with anything physical? It doesn't. The new man is simply another way of referring to the church. We are the new man. We're one body. We're the temple of God. We're the body of Christ. And, yes, we are...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You act as if faith automatically results from hearing the gospel. Have you never looked at Romans 10:17 in context? To see the context you need to read all of the surrounding verses. Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I didn't cut if off because it doesn't agree with what I said. The very next verse confirms what I said. Hold on here. You are accusing me of ignoring what it says in verse 13, but you seem to be ignoring what it says in verse 12. Do you not think that someone becomes a child of God immediately...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    But, I've explained it to you many times. How could you forget? I accept your apology, but please try to read what people say to you more carefully so that you don't forget what people actually believe. As I've told you many times, yes. Yes, but it's not as clear in Matthew 24 as it is in this...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Nope. Unique in that everyone received the same spiritual gift of speaking in tongues at that time. Obviously, not everyone receives the gift of speaking in tongues every time they receive the Holy Spirit, but that's how it was that day in order to make it clear to everyone that things had...