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Wrong. It started and ended in 70 AD as I've said MANY times. Hello? Do you not have any reading comprehension skills at all? It seems not. Yes, seeing that verse as referring to 2,000 years of great tribulation is 100% malarkey. I agree. I don't. You are laughing at your strawman because of...

I disagree with that, also. Matthew 24:21 is referring to God's wrath, as the parallel passage of Luke 21:20-24 indicates. Matthew 24:15-21 has nothing to do with the preaching of the gospel and persecution of believers over the past 2,000 years. The passage does not have a global scope as Jesus...

If you want to disagree with him, that's fine. But, why do you lie? Nowhere did he say that "the dead do not rise first". Absolutely nowhere. So, why are you lying about what he believes? Paul is quite clear in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 that the dead in Christ are resurrected first and then they...

So, you are a preterist then because Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies about His first coming. We're all preterists by that definition. That is not what I believe. God's wrath is described there, not persecution, as the parallel passage of Luke 21:20-24 makes more clear by referring...

Includes, involves, however you want to say it. Goodness. I'm just saying those things all happen at the same time (receiving the Spirit, baptism of the Spirit, regeneration of the Spirit). Wrong. In John 1:12, it says that after accepting/receiving Christ, someone then becomes a child of God...

Turn your sarcasm meter on. I wasn't being serious. Good grief. I thought that would be obvious, but I guess I forgot who I was talking to there for a minute. Say what now? I see that you have not improved on making yourself clear. Oh, good! That would be nice. Let's see.... Oops. So much for...

I have never taken it seriously for even a second. Jesus clearly did not come in any way, shape or form and the elect were not gathered by the angels in any way, shape or form in 70 AD.

You believe that the prophecies regarding the first coming of Jesus were interpreted in the past and that is 100% preterist. So, we're all preterists according to the way you define preterism, which is not the way anyone else defines preterism.

You are not very bright. That's as nice as I can say it. I can tell you something 1,000 times and you still don't get it. You even posted a graphic in response to me once showing what preterists believe and none of it said anything about them believing that the great tribulation began in the 1st...

No, those who are honest with scripture argue both. You don't have to be a preterist to interpret Matthew 24:15-21 (Mark 13:14-20, Luke 21:20-24) as being God's wrath against the Jews in 70 AD. In Revelation 2:22, would you not call "great tribulation", that Jesus said would come against...

It refers to those who are like Jezebel who was practicing sexual immorality and eating food sacrificed to idols and influencing others to do the same. In that verse, "great tribulation" refers to God's wrath that comes against those who refuse to repent. Yet, you try to say that God's wrath...

So, I'll have to assume that you have me on your ignore list because I showed you a clear example in scripture where God's wrath is referred to as "great tribulation". But, here you are still denying that God's wrath can be described as "great tribulation" Revelation 2:20 Nevertheless I have a...

God's wrath can be described as great tribulation just as it is in Revelation 2:22... Revelation 2:20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things...

Yes. This is why he is not someone who can be taken seriously. Anyone who believes such extreme nonsense as that is not someone who has any credibility.

You referenced Zechariah 13:8 in a futurist sense. What is your understanding of the verse immediately preceding that one? Zechariah 13:7 “Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd, Against the Man who is My Companion,” Says the Lord of hosts. “Strike the Shepherd, And the sheep will be scattered...

Yes. He also doesn't believe in spirit beings called angels. He believes that references to angels in scripture are references to human messengers. He believes that Satan refers to the fallen spirit of man or mankind. We've debated him about that at length. WPM even created a thread about it...

He is not a preterist. Preterists don't claim that the great tribulation has been taking place for the past 2,000 years as he is claiming. They claim that it took place in 70 AD and it was just before Jesus came and the elect were gathered. Unlike preterists, he believes that Matthew 24:30 is...

Not gathering from earth? Think again. Mark 13:27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven. Despite Jesus explicitly saying so, you think it's "plain crazy" for someone to believe that. I...