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Okay, it looks like you don't want to have an adult discussion, so I'm done with this. I told you that I'm not interested in having a discussion where I answer your questions, but you don't answer mine. This response shows that you are not interested in having an adult discussion where each...

LOL. That's what we've been doing and you've struggled mightily just to address the basics. You are doing everything you can to avoid what Romans 8:31-34 indicates about who the elect are. You think the mark of the beast is the basics? There's probably about 1,000 different interpretations of...

Are my questions too difficult for you? Instead of answering, you feel the need to try to condemn me despite the fact that the measure you use to condemn me will be used against you (Matthew 7:1-2)?

Do you deny that the body of Christ are the elect, as the following indicates? Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all...

Keep telling yourself that, Stuart.

How many times do I have to show you the same passage before you will address what it indicates? Paul taught that the church (those who belong to Christ) are the elect in this passage. Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did...

That's a lie. You haven't answered my question even once. Who do the following passages indicate that God's people Israel are? Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all...

You don't need to post the same thing to me 3 times (twice here and once in the other thread. Please grow up and stop playing games.

They are mistaken. Paul indicates that those in the church are the elect. Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things...

Scripture teaches that the elect are all Christians who belong to God, so the gathering of the church when Jesus comes and we are gathered to Him is the gathering of the elect. Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare...

Take my time? This is the third time you've made that same request (twice in this thread and once in another thread), so you're not coming across as if you're willing to be patient and wait for an answer to this question. I answered this in post #602.

There's no need to ask me the same question in two different threads. I answered this in the other thread where you asked me this same question.

The elect are those who belong to God/Christ, which the latter two verses are referring to. Paul wrote about the elect here... Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how...

You're being completely evasive and not addressing any of my points or asking my questions. You have no idea how bad that makes you look. What verses are you wanting me to list? I'm addressing the inconsistency in the way you interpret scripture and you're not willing to address that. Do you...

Where does Paul teach that anyone will be gathered to meet Christ in the air in 1 Corinthians 15:52? Nowhere. Yet, you can still discern that the verse relates to 1 Thessalonians 4:17. Why do you not use similar logic when comparing those two verses as you do when comparing 1 Thess 4:17 to...

If they are in your Bible, then you should be able to answer my simple question. God bless us and all of His people who are Abraham's spiritual seed and are a new creation in Christ! Do you agree? Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel...

You are expecting that everything should be explicitly spelled out to us in scripture, but that's not how this works. With your way of interpreting scripture we should expect Jesus to come at least around 10 more times in the future.

Probably partly because of their poor reading comprehension skills (as evidenced by the fact that they misrepresent what others believe repeatedly) and partly because some partial preterists claim that the old covenant was still in effect in 70 AD and didn't end until then, so they think all...

LOL. You are apparently just playing games here. You're on the wrong forum for that. This forum is for adults to discuss eschatology. You are being completely evasive and not answering my questions or addressing my points. Tell me how you conclude that 1 Corinthians 5:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:17...

You can't be serious. That's your takeaway from what I said in post #588? Please answer the questions I asked in that post instead of just asking a silly question in response.