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Already responded to these things with 1 Jn 2:28, 3:23,24, 5:11, 21.

Yup, He saved us--and that salvation is as the Jews' from slavery in Egypt, and, still, after, they sinned and fell under God's wrath and forfeited the promise, so the same can happen to us (1 Co 9:26-1 Co 10).

OK You claim you've proven your point, and I claim I've proven my point.

OK, so you believe you can be saved while not remaining in Him? What are you saved from if you're not in Him? If you're "cut off", you're not in His kindness, but under His severity (Ro 11:17-23). You're not receiving the eternal life that is in Him (1 Jn 3:23,24).

Yeah, and yet there is condemnation for the believer who does not walk in faith, but does things he doubts (Ro 14:23). Your view has no way of accounting for that.

No reason to denigrate me to disagree with me. Just prove your point from Scripture as I have done.

Again, He only continues to supply the Spirit to those who remain in Him by obeying His commands: 1) "believe on the Name of God's Son", and 2) "love one another" (ie, "walk by faith", since faith "works by love" (Gal 5), and when we don't walk in faith we are "condemned" for "sin" (Ro 14:5,23)...

Stop misrepresenting me--I never said "we have to do it ourselves", it is us agreeing with God.

Sorry I have to believe the Scripture--"obey, for it is God at work in you" means God is working and we are to work with that working.

Since we are commanded "remain in Him", it's partially our duty.

It's not one or the other, it's both : "obey, for it is God at work in you" (Php 2:12,13).

100% agree

Already addressed this: the life is "in His Son" (1 Jn 5:11), not all "remain in Him" (1 Jn 2:28), because not all continue to obey Him, so they don't continue being supplied with the "Spirit"/"eternal life" that is "in Him" (1 Jn 3:23,24).

We'll see.

I'm not going to read Matthew 13 to figure out what you're getting at. I'll wait for you to explain what you are getting at.

Yeah the love that is "in Christ", but not all "remain in Him" (1 Jn 2:28, 3:23,24, 5:11, 5:21).

I asked you to explain what point you're making, you INTENTIONALLY did not, then came with Preterism. Explain your point about salvation being POSSESSED and then LOST.

God can use rebellion for good, it's true, but here it's just disorderliness.

Christ has had victory, but you're not tying it together with the topic. You're intentionally being "anarchic", disorderly, off topic.

Christ is a High Priest. The High Priest offers sacrifices that apply to those in the Nation. Christ is called "Israel", and those who are "in Christ" have the sacrifices of the High Priest applying to them. It doesn't apply to those who are not part of the Nation--eg, the Jews who were "cut...