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And Jesus is the chosen servant of God! The language is not adopted but it means the same thing. We get the same inheritance Jesus does! This proves he is not more of a son than we are. Scripture says he is the firstborn of the New Creation. He can’t be the first born AND be fundamentally...

One of my earliest objections to trinitarianism was the proclamation that not believing it means you can’t be saved and are damned to hell. The golden question sets this IDOLATRY straight; what verse says that? Given that is false, why do trinitarians make it seem like their manmade doctrine...

True but even as it is, it is not the trinity verse they try to make it out to be. It says nothing of the nature of God OR that believing the trinity is required for salvation.

Why are you only looking at this verse? As a lawyer, you know if a contract has one condition, that is determinant; no parsing between sufficient amor necessary. You don’t just look at a single sentence. That’s why I asked about the trinitarian counterpoint, which you admit is non-existent...

It doesn’t have to say only X. The fact that other conditions are absent from the text tells the story. Boy, the sophistry to NOT reject the trinity is something to behold! Invent a specific formulation of words designed to defeat the obvious, explicit and repeatedly given truth from God’s words.

I don’t understand how you are parsing sufficient with necessary? At first, it seems like sophistry, an artificial dichotomy, to side step THE condition of salvation.

You keep implying there is some kind of equal ambiguity on both sides. 1st, that’s not true. 2nd, you know the burden is on the one making the positive claim, I.e., both sides do not have equal burden to make its case. See post #787. What is the trinitarian counterpoint to Romans 10:9, such as...

I gave the link for you to re-familiarize yourself with it. You could read it. LOL. Because I’m not sure what your ‘we’ orientation is, let me summarize. Colonial powers of Europe were ascendant during this era. Starting with Spain, led by Columbus and the Conquistadors, mainly in south and...

I think @marks was suggesting some kind of similar reconciliation process is needed for Scripture focus individually. Most of us recognize apparent contradictions in Scripture. Normally, these are mostly resolved by context and translation choices. It takes deep dives into the culture of the...

To say some Scripture is equivocal on the subject of the trinity does not mean: There is any unequivocal Scripture in support of the trinity. There are not mountains of unequivocal Scripture against the trinity, e.g., every epistle teaches there is only God the Father.

Not much of a student of history, huh? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War

Hmmm. I was referring to inconsistency in the law and inconsistency of judicial interpretation. Assumed you’d know that.

@RedFan, no point by point rebuttal? Isn’t ignoring all this so typical @face2face, @APAK, @Keiw?

Yea, I’m not talking about generic Joe Blow but my friend of over 35 years, my brother in Christ, who I love more than life itself, who I’d sacrifice my life for. The least I could do is evangelize, impress upon him giving in to coveting does not glorify his Lord and my Lord.

I’m surprised at your question. Can the legal system live with inconsistency?

This is a Pagan idea, from the Greek god Phoenix, that one emerges by their own power from death. To accept this, one must reject what death means, the cessation of life, of independent function.

You just re-quote the first 3 verses but ignore the implications for the trinity heresy. Nice!

@MatthewG, I wanted to wait to consider your questions. It's wrong NOT to have a concern for people, for image bearers of God, which makes this post below a little disturbing. Perhaps you just worded it in a certain way. It seems to me you are rightly focused on justice and right or wrong...

LOL Trinity anti-logic on display. 1st, one cannot logically prove a negative. (And I think you are smart enough to know that) 2nd, as a lawyer, you know the burden is on the one who makes the positive claim, e.g., the defendant is guilty or liable, H0 v Ha. Trinitarians have failed to prove...

You do laps on ground already covered. Just ignore the analysis of John 17:1-3 and 8:54 in post 712, eh? Just ignore it because it is not convenient for your dogma.