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I think that most "born again Christians" eventually do discover the difference between "Christ-ianity" and "church-ianity".

The Binitarian belief is that of God the Father and God the Son together, are the Holy Spirit together, being not another addition to the God head. John.14[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and...

AJ, I hear you, and I almost partly accept it, but the stick in the mud for me is what you already referenced in Proverbs 8:22-31. Nowhere in that does it reveal that Jesus was created, but rather He was "brought forth", which is NOT in the way that we and all of creation came to be. Jesus was...

I am of the Binitarian concept in the understanding of the God head ("joined at the hip", as you say). In KJV- Revelation 3:20, I am making reference to the Strongs Concordance of Jesus as being the chief cornerstone, the primal element for the creation of all things. Strong's Number - G746...

Yes, I agree! But from that side of eternity, we have no idea of when Jesus became God's only begotten Son. I do not say that Jesus was "created", but rather is the express IMAGE of His person of God Himself, aka being an extension of Himself, being Spirit. Hebrews 1:3. Jesus didn't become flesh...

Sheol, aka hell is nothing more than the grave. It is both death and the grave that could not keep Jesus. Therefore for each of us now, who have put their faith in Christ, and are born again by His Holy Spirit, while still having breath, "we shall never die". John 11:26. However, all of such DO...

Of course I am saying that Jesus is eternal, before the world was created, and after His resurrection. But now, having His new life of being the firstborn from the dead, He is immortal in the likeness of His being, after our mortal flesh. Yes, I agree on the scriptures you referenced. Other...

Hmmm...not after He was made eternal. No one who is not eternal can say: "I AM the resurrection". Of course, through the lineage of the flesh of Mary, Jesus' physical, mortal body is of the seed of David. But before you get into genealogies, let's never lose sight of Who His Father is.

Amen! Thank you for your honesty and open mindedness. Its a rare thing among the many religious indoctrinated on board here. Your approach in these discussions is to be commended in fairness of conversing and your politeness in debate. God bless you also, brother Matt.:)

Well OK. Let's try it this way: Hebrews 10[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: [6] In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. [7] Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the...

Does innocense know or understand disobedience (what is right or what is wrong)? BTW, I am of the Binitarian concept.

As I had shared with MathewG., I do also reply to your post: As to the eternal Jesus, please consider His own words of prayer to His Father: John.17[5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Agreed! Even more so, in God's foreknowledge, He had already planned for our salvation, knowing the end result of the Garden situation beforehand. However (just speculating), even if they had eaten of the Tree of Life first, and had received eternal life right then and there, it would have been...

The deeper question is: why have "the knowledge of good and evil" separate in the garden, when both the Father and the Son had it all along? Genesis 3:22 Ans. Either way, whether through the Tree of Life (which they never ate of) or the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam and Eve would...

Going by your version of scripture quotes, I can attest to the fact that "to the age, but is in danger of age-during judgment;" is right NOW, ever since Pentacost, being the Age of God's Grace (2000+ years moving forward). John 3:18. This present Age of God's Grace shall come to an abrupt halt...

If God is in such displeasure in His foreknowledge over the loss of anyone, then the question must be asked of why did He allow the creation of Adam and Eve, in the simplicity of their innocence, become corrupted with the knowledge of good and evil? Ans. He wanted His creation of man to love Him...

It's simply a logical question about having faith in Jesus Christ, and His promise of God's Gift of eternal life. But, if a person refuses to have faith in Jesus, choosing to disobey the Gospel, how are they being sustained to be alive/conscious, in a place of eternal torment?

And who exactly would be sustaining that state of existence of personal hopelessness into eternity, outside the KoG?

We being mortal and limited daily by time, have no idea, nor can we truly imagine how the Being of God does live in the past, present and future all at the same time, and then speak about it by the same way. Revelation 22 is a good example of that. We are to discern it, realizing that the past...

Yes, the punishment of eternal death is the just reward, for neglecting the only means of God's salvation that is possible, while we still have breath, aka "the breath of life"- "nephesh". I can't say that hell (the pit/graves) are eternal, for they also are found to be in the lake of fire...