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    Dispensationalism

    Your point of truth is well understood by most here.
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    Hello! Just joined. I don’t think I’ve been to this one before.

    Out of a W/Pop. of 7.5+ billion, that's not alot. So in reality, it's not the obvious false claimants that we have to be concerned about, but rather those who are teaching about biblical prophecy and fabricated false doctrines in the churches. Would the following verse clearly reveal the issue...
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    Hello! Just joined. I don’t think I’ve been to this one before.

    So, if not a 1000 years as being literal, and if not future, do the majority see it figurative as taking place now, ever since Pentecost?
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    Hello! Just joined. I don’t think I’ve been to this one before.

    Skovand, If you can, are you knowledgeable of how many people there have been, who claimed to be the second coming of Christ? An estimation will do, if you don't know the exact number. Ref. Luke 21:8
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    You are not hearing Malachi 3:16, and the simple fact of what Jesus said: John.3[13] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. > That includes Enoch and Elijah. No one was going to have the preminence over and above Jesus...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    You are not telling me anything that I don't already know about the Character of Christ and the fruit of the Holy Spirit, allowing us to be partakers of the divine nature. Those are well known of by all who present their bodies to Him as a holy and living sacrifice for His use. We are to reckon...
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    Hello! Just joined. I don’t think I’ve been to this one before.

    No doubt, "the scholars" believe in a future literal 1000 year period of peace on earth, with God's kingdom on earth. I say that since the Ascension of Jesus and the Day of Pentecost, we all have been in a figurative 1000 years of God reconciling the world unto Himself through Jesus, for all who...
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    Hello! Just joined. I don’t think I’ve been to this one before.

    Sorry, N. T. Wright, is Not That wRight. Most everyone loves the historical Jesus, but there are not that many who love the spiritual Jesus. 1Cor.2[5] That y/our faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but [rather] in the power of God.
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    and i dont know how much more i can take

    1Cor.10[13] There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. 2Cor.1[4] Who comforteth us in all our...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Prior to the day of Jesus death and Resurrection, and the giving of His Holy Spirit on Pentecost, no human being was allowed to enter into the kingdom of Heaven. The best that could be established for them, was to have their names written in the "book of Remembrance". Malachi 3:16. As a result...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    The word "soul" in the Hebrew is nephesh, which means "animal life". KJV Genesis 2:7 So, through birth by "seed" (procreation) and breathing oxygenated air, both animals and humans have "animal life" only.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    How can an unsaved person have eternal torment, if they don't have eternal life/existence of any kind??
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    As for what God's word is, let me put it this way: First and foremost God the Father is a spirit. He doesn't have vocal cords as we do, though Jesus did and still does. However, for what He does have, is His Eternal thoughts and ways, which are extremely much higher than our human, earthy...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Smoke in space is a proven reality, being that of uncondensed atoms of Carbon. Knowledge didn't increase in the days of Moses, so I am sure he was clueless about the gaseous elements of God's creation. Though "Animal Husbandry" was most certainly a study then, "Chemistry 101" was definitely...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. > and that judgment was fulfilled in the day of Jesus' first appearing, and not ever anytime earlier. Edit: BTW, to take or administer an action, is...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Yes, it's called "human intelligence" of "the natural man/mind", aka our fleshly mind**, of which by the way, IS NOT "the mind of Christ", which is deposited within us when we are Born again of God's Holy Spirit. ** Note: "the wisdom of men". 1 Corinthians 2:5.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    If according to your thinking, suffering in a "religious" concept of Hell is for eternity, then one should know that there is no "day or night" there. As for their torment, it's the "smoke OF" their torment from burning by God's everlasting fire, that rises up forever. Did you forget that "our...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    BTW, the Hebrew word for soul in Genesis is "nephesh", meaning "animal life". Genesis 7[22] All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. [23] And every living substance [H3351 thing] was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Where does it say that God breathed "a living soul" into Adam. "The Breath of life" is not a living soul, but if it is, then the animals have it also. Genesis 2:7, 6:17, 7:15,22. Is that what you want to say?
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    No, the first judgment of death has been looming over us for many millennia. There never was any other choice, until the second judgment of the Gift of eternal life was made available to us, through the obedience of Jesus. 1. "Because" of unbelief, "Thou shalt surely die." 2. Because of belief...